NBA trade rumors: Knicks keeping Carmelo Anthony over taking Rockets offer?

Could simply be they/Melo has tanked his trade value so low, they might as well stall and hope and pray we throw in something more. What do they have to lose really? They could at least do this until pre season. If we get Melo, I be it's after the season starts at this point. Just my guess.

I've said it before, if we don't get Melo, I'm not that concerned. I'm betting on Anderson playing better this year. Neither gives you great defense.

 

Trade idea.
Detroit has a lot of bad contracts and need a power forward. Anderson and Capella could both fit there. I personally don't like Capella's game and think Boban should be a starter in this league. This works on ESPN Trade Machine. It gets New York a point guard that might rebound from last year's bad performance.

Houston gets Carmelo Anthony and Boban Marjanovic
Detroit gets Ryan Anderson, Clint Capela, and Isaiah Taylor.
New York gets Reggie Jackson and Trevor Ariza.

Ariza is going to warrant more money than Houston can afford next year, and Houston already has PJ Tucker and Tory Williams at the small forward. They could also bring in Chris Johnson who played really well in summer league.

Marjanovic can score and protect the rim. He's a true center.

 

I don't think that the Rockets lost in terms of bench play.

Gordon is still here. Nene is also still here. As for the rest of the bench, we made the following exchanges:

Dekker to Tucker
Harrell to Black
Lou to Luc

The rest of the spots are (and were) the usual mix of young prospects and cheerleaders (looking at you, Bobby Brown). The bench arguably got better, especially defensively. It may have lost some apparently scoring punch, but this should be more than offset by the fact that either Paul or Harden will be a part of any bench-heavy unit.

Bottom line, the squad is still 10-deep with actually capable NBA players.

 

Stopped reading in the bold. Can't take you seriously with such bad talent evaluation ability.

 

I'm in the same boat. Melo would be an improvement over Anderson, sure. But if the talking heads are right about it taking TWO first rounders for a team to take on Anderson's contract (although I'm not sure I fully believe that), PLUS factoring in whatever the Knicks want from Houston, then I'll just run with Anderson, thanks.

Like you, if the price is right, then great. If not, I can live with this team, as is.

 

Man, you should consider putting that into a Tweet, too.

 

Why do folks keep saying this? Nothing in Melo's history suggests he will walk away from 27M. 27M that NO TEAM will give him next summer. He's not opting out. If traded here he wouldn't leave that $$ on the table either, unless we gave him a final long-term deal.

 

This is what scares me as a rockets fan. From the Knicks perspective, Melo's value is at an all time low. It's it really that risky to hold onto him? Maybe he has a great start to the season and people see his value more and offer more. Maybe another team has a great start and he widens his preferred destinations. Maybe Rockets sputter out of the gate and get desperate. Or maybe none of that happens and he pouts his way through the season. Oh well, you can always buy him out. It's not like buying him out later is that much worse than the flotsam they would get in a three team deal. And it's still preferable to taking on 3 years of Ryan Anderson.

 

I'm about in the position as well, except I might be a bit more pouty if we start the season without Melo.

The way I see it, as is, we'll be competing for the 2nd seed in the West. And then we'll hope for a decent 5 game series against GSW.

Substitute Carmelo in his place and I think that 2nd seed is secure, and we'll have an interesting series against GSW - with a shot at actually winning it, though we'd still be decent underdogs.

Is the difference between those scenarios worth 2 first rounders? Tough to say. Ask me 5 years from now when I have the benefit of hindsight and I'll have all the answers.

 

I think it is because it puts us in a position to do something more at the trade deadline if needed.

 

I'd match my talent evaluation abilities against anyone, and in particular Morey's. Capela has said that his goal this year is to log more than 24 minutes a game. He only plays 24 minutes a game because that's all his talent will allow. If he were playing power forward he might be worth more minutes, but not at center. He's out of position, and as long as he's playing center he will never progress to more than 24 minutes.

 

Melo is not leaving $27 million on the table. No f-ing way. First, he's not going to do them any favors after the organization let Phil Jackson crap on him all year and didn't say a word. Nobody lifted a finger. No leaks dripped from that toilet franchise tempering Jackson's negative portrayal of Anthony at all. Jackson didn't get the heave ho until his Big Chief Butthurt act imperiled the relationship between the team and Porzingis. Melo will also be extra motivated to stick it to the Knicks if they renege on their promise to the trade him to the Rockets. No, the Knicks will have to eat something and it won't taste good.

 

How about Jerry West? Are you as good at talent evaluation as Jerry West?

 

Just curious, was that report about Knicks senior officials laughing at a video of Melo working out during the summer true or was it a hoax?

 

What makes you think Jerry West was special? The worse race horse handicappers are jockeys. Their inability to pick the best rides makes them nuts.

 

It's laughable that u think your talent evaluation abilities are on par with Morey's. Stop it. U think that Capela should be a PF and is playing out of position at C? How can people take u seriously when u say stuff like that. He will never progress past 24 mpg? Lmao, where do people come up with this nonsense?

 

Trevor Ariza is going nowhere. Capela is going nowhere.

 

Of course he wouldn't opt out if he were traded to one of his approved destinations.

Also, if Melo opts in, that contradicts his obvious desire to win a ring (as proven by his NTC desired destinations) No, he's not getting $27mm a yr anymore. But by opting in he gets one year older with zero chances at a ring just for the incremental handful of millions he would get relative to his signing elsewhere (for his lesser contract reflecting his lesser value)?

You act like your view isn't complete conjecture like everyone else's. I said it was likely btw. My view acknowledges that there's a chance he might opt in. Yours straight up assumes you're right, period. Even Melo's camp has tried to get a buyout, which means they're ok with being paid the 4th yr salary of $27mm only because if you ask for a buyout, there's no asking for getting paid for the final year of which is a player ETO.

Can the attitude. Bold and caps doesn't make your argument as well thought out as you think.

 

He's not opting out of 27M that he won't recover, period, no matter the team.

He doesn't have an obvious desire to win a ring. He has an obvious desire to play with one of his banana boat buddies. If it were about winning a ring then he would be open to more teams.

I'm acting like Melo has never shown any indication that he doesn't put $$ first and based on his history I don't see why anyone would think he would walk away from 27M.

No attitude in my posts. Poor assumption.

 

Lol, no. You just did it again. You're making assertions based on assumptions without any evidence. Support for my assumptions are factual (Melo's trade list and buyout demands) and support my stance. Yours are speculation (he solely wants to play with his banana boat buddies irregardless of championship prospects and that he still thinks of money first as he nears his twilight and already has millions) that is only supported bc he signed big contracts in NYC when the league was completely different in terms of power concentration.

The likelihood is he only wants to play for a contender with his banana crew. Either way, NYK has neither of those two things. Their only leg up is at most maybe $10mm more he would get relative to signing elsewhere for one year, 41 games or so that are played in NYC where he's subject to massive state income taxes.

You're overvaluing that one time, extra salary.