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Astros Trade option(s)

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by ZeroPoint, Apr 14, 2017.

  1. jerinrulz

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    Completely agree, that's why I said it was just one side. I'm a totally random dude to him, not an insider in any way.
     
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  2. Nick

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    Truth is always somewhere in the middle.

    When other Gm's say lowball, it just may have been slightly subpar compared to what the GM was looking for.

    When Luhnow says deal(s) were 90% complete, it may have been less (let alone the fact that deals are either done or not... like being pregnant).
     
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  3. Nick

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    Same here.

    The "process" has been rewarding, and this fan base has been through everything possible, and stuck by this team throughout it all.

    Getting a little selfish during the season of ages, which represents the first time in franchise history that the Astros have far and away been the best in the league, is only natural. Being dissapointed that they didn't get better (when it was a presumed last trade deadline, this off-season, and throughout the first half that they'd be buyers if in it) is also natural.
     
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  4. BMoney

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    Danny Ainge created a team that won a championship and went to another finals and rebuilt into an ECF team on the fly. Luhnow has one playoff appearance and a series loss. No comparison.
     
  5. Snake Diggit

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    Verlander and $25M for Yordan Alvarez and Cionel Perez. The narrative would totally reverse, and Keuchel would do a cartwheel. This team needs a spark.
     
  6. BMoney

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    The Astros were a solid franchise for most of my life, but they could never get over the hump. We lived with that. More often than not, the team was good and had players you could root for. I can't say that about their management. I still don't trust Crane given his craven actions in moving the team to the AL and his past business reputation. Luhnow seems like he is great at drafting and player development, but the jury is out on his trading acumen.

    For old timers like me (46), it is hard to separate the past with the current team. It's not fair, but the teardown that led to one of the worst 4 year stretches of MLB ever (look it up) is only worth it if they win a World Series in the next 10 years. Only one team has gone longer without winning a title and even the Rangers and Indians have been to the World Series and won games there recently.
     
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  7. snowconeman22

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    True , I was talking about just that aspect of ainge .
     
  8. Nick

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    Ainge got fringy with prospects after he'd already won a title.
     
  9. Rox225

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  10. Rox225

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    My guesses on undisclosed third surprise target are Osuna or Raisel Iglesias.
     
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    That stinks. He has to get a impact pitcher through the waiver wire. I feel like it's a must.
     
  12. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Judging by the trades around the league I would doubt it was prohibitive. The Rosenthal post also says no top 100 prospects so that leaves out Martes, Tucker, Perez, Fisher, and Whitley. So that leaves guys like Alvarez, Cameron, Stubbs, Reed, JD Davis, Teoscar, Tony Kemp. Maybe even Celestino, Nova, Hector Perez. I mean, geez.
     
  13. Major

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    That all assumes you believe the random anonymous Padres official who has every reason to try to make the Padres look good. With Hand, it's important to remember that no one met the Padres' asking price - not just the Astros.
     
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  14. Nook

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    Alvarez? Nah.
     
  15. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    As opposed to assuming the whiz GM getting roasted from most everyone including his own players is trying to make himself look good for not having a chair when the music stopped. Sure.

    A relevant story.

    Prospects In Deadline Trades Face Long Odds
    Read more at http://www.baseballamerica.com/mino...ne-trades-face-long-odds/#rH5cxEFCeE1ZWifo.99
     
  16. Major

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    You just seem to be creating whatever narrative you want. This is the part of the story you were referencing:

    The Astros and other teams considered the Padres’ asking price as unreasonable, but one Padres official said the club did not ask for any players ranked among the game’s top 100 prospects - a claim disputed by executives from two of Hand's suitors after the initial publishing of this story.


    So multiple teams said the price was too high and two teams said the Padres' claim wasn't true, yet you arbitrarily choose to believe the Padres' guy. It seems like you're the one driving to drive an agenda, facts be damned.
     
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    790 reported he passed through
     
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    I have not seen that anywhere else. I'd be shocked if they had the inside scoop. Has the claiming period even expired yet?
     
  19. Houstunna

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    Less than 24 hours does seem fast. He was just placed yesterday.
     
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    Hasn't happened yet but
     

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