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Historians rank President Obama...

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Feb 17, 2017.

  1. cml750

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    lol, when you work with people day in and day out politics usually come up. You know you do actually become friends with co-workers, at least I do. Politics is not the first thing to talk about but it invariably comes up during the time you spend with cowarkers. The only people I have come across that are abrasive as what you think I am are indoctrinated union members. That is not a blanket statement against all union members. I was for a short time at the beginning of my career a union member myself. I have spoke politics with many union members who only voted Democrat because they were told to yet ironically held very conservative beliefs when pressed issue by issue. Obama managed to break most of them and convert them to conservative voters..
     
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    I ate, slept, shitted and fought along side my company of peers which included about 200 men for roughly 4 years, and even then I didn't know everyone's political affiliations. That's just absurd. I've spent 3+ years with the my engineering class that's going to graduate in 2018. I don't know about 4/5ths of my classes' political affiliation. It hardly ever comes up in our conversations and we are snowflake college students. 97% of my political rhetoric is on this message board or Reddit.
     
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    I had a co-worker that was like this literally. Because it's completely inappropriate in the workplace and most of us don't want to make a big deal out of it, we were politely quiet and laugh it off during lunch among ourselves (we of course aren't just liberals). It was quite clear that the assumption that everyone is a staunch conservative in this person's head.
     
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  4. TheRealist137

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    Wow are you really that dumb? How can you be on a forum since 2002, have over 3k posts, yet still do not know how forums work. Click the red up arrow in the header next to the quote. You will find the original topic.

    You are seriously an airhead. I can't believe that you took offense to me calling you an idiot before. If anything, this entire thread proves it. It's okay to be unintelligent, as long as you realize it.
     
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    I guess the country being divided puts Lincoln on the bottom of the list? Lol.
     
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    Nice try, but you can't have your cake and eat it too.
     
  7. Buck Turgidson

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    You voted for Donald Trump.

    There's no tard that can out-tard that level of tard.
     
  8. Bobbythegreat

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    In many, many ways Lincoln was a really bad president.

    Let's imagine that Donald Trump got upset about a new outlet printing "fake news" and decided to have the military seize their offices and imprison the editors.....we'd probably hear how that was "unprecedented" and how wrong it was.....but it would just be another day at the office for honest Abe.

    How about we imagine that an American speaks out against the US war in Iraq and Trump decided to deport that US citizen to Iraq? Pretty awful right? Lincoln would see it as the right thing to do.

    Most of the reason why he's seen as a good president today is that his presidency ended slavery....but even that wasn't really all that pure, his plan was to round up every black person in America and have them shipped out of the country because as much as he thought slavery was abhorrent, he really didn't want black people in the US.

    If we judged him by modern standards, we'd see him as a terrible president.
     
  9. JuanValdez

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    There is definitely something political about how historians did this list. Lincoln is graded the very best president, and he happens to be the guy who succeeds the one graded the worst president, Buchanan. That might be directionally right, but there is a definite Civil War effect going on in evaluating these presidents. Had the South won, I could see the historiography treating Buchanan much more sympathetically while being very hard on Lincoln for catalyzing the split.
     
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    The part I put in bold speaks volumes. The "only one who has a degree who is not conservative and she is not an engineer" is centered on three things. She is (as described by you) #1 a woman, #2 a "liberal," and #3, not an engineer. For those of you unfamiliar with the social leanings and sexual makeup of the engineering community, the vast majority are male, and a majority are certainly conservative. For those of you here who are engineers and don't fit my description of them, I apologize if I offended you. It's the truth, though.
     
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    Richard Epstein is a Hoover fellow, a law professor, and consider one of the most influential conservative and libertarian legal and political writers. Reading through this op ed, he praises Trump throughout. So why does he repeat his call for Trump to step down? Read on...

    TOP CONSERVATIVE SAYS TRUMP MUST GO NOW. BUT HOW?
    http://www.newsweek.com/top-conserv...kTwitter&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social
     
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    In context of Trump calling the White House a "dump", here's a tribute to the White House by former President Obama:

     
  17. bigtexxx

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    Is anybody struggling more right now than NewRoxFan? Poor guy lives a life of frustration and losing.
     
  18. NewRoxFan

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    What is this... all bigtexxx has left is to resort to personal attacks? Reckon it is the result of embarrassing support of Trump. Sounds like bigtexxx needs some alone time to reassess and come back with a fresh outlook.
     
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    Bless your heart. I'm concerned about your frustration and struggles. Gather yourself and refresh, my friend.
     
  20. NewRoxFan

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    Gee... I knew you had taken an unusual interest in me (not that there is anything wrong with that... glad you feel this is a safe place to come out in). But your lack of real content, especially after being proven wrong time and time again, suggests you need to take some time off... read up, expand your circle, and I am sure folks will start following your threads again. You certainly don't want to be known for such embarrassing threads as "Energy independence + job creation", "Trump's already saving jobs-Carrier to keep jobs in the US" and "Another terrible jobs number". Those threads all seemed to backfire on you (admittedly, not as bad as the "Trump's approval is at 55% - Go Trump" thread).
     

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