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Trump: Transgenders no longer welcome in the military

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Jul 26, 2017.

  1. conquistador#11

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    Every trip to La margo is around $3.1 million dollars.Trump's handicap is probably better than tiger woods in his prime with all that golfing. in less than 200 trips to la margo, trump could have all those operations on himself if he chose to.

    Vanity fair put out an article on the lifestyle the taxpayer is paying for. I don't know if vanity fair is fake news or fake fashion?
    http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/04/trump-lifestyle-cost-taxpayers-billion-dollars
     
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  2. Buck Turgidson

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    I notice that the "I'm an M.D." defense was used earlier, yet there's no acknowledgement of the President of the AMA contradicting everything said.
     
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  3. No Worries

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    To coin the phrase used by another member of the D&D echo chamber...He's a "family practice physician..."

    The statements by the AMA (anyone in medicine, knows how stupid this organization is...) doesnt speak for all physicians.
     
  5. NewRoxFan

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    Not surprised... I am sure there are bigots in every profession.
     
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    Seeing as there is a wide variance of opinion on this matter by physicians, I doubt their opinions are based on their education but rather their social views prior. I would say a psychologist might have an argument from authority, not a general med student. It's like me asserting that I'm an expert in mathematical models for black holes as a mechanical engineer just because I know some advanced math and physics.

    You are trying to assert an argument from authority with little to no merit. Are you specialized in any subject pertaining to mental illnesses?

    This phenomenon happens with anti-evolution advocates highlighting physicians who agree with them as subject matter experts when in reality a physician is not an expert in evolutionary biology or abiogenesis.
     
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  7. Buck Turgidson

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    If he could grab himself by the p***y, he'd never leave the West Wing. I love this plan.
     
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    I finally took a look at D&D after the news of trump's latest twitter tantrum came out. Didn't make it past page one. The blatant bigotry, and you are a fine example, is on display, just as I feared it would be. It isn't a "mental state, " bigot. You clearly know next to nothing about transgender people, just as you appear to know next to nothing about today's military. A 2014 survey I just read in Bloomburg put the number of trans Americans serving in active service, in the National Guard, or in the Reserves at approximately 15,500. That is a lot of trans Americans serving your country, not a "few."

    The same survey estimated that over 134,000 transgender Americans were veterans, had served in the Guard, or in the Reserves. So those thousands of Americans willing to put their lives on the line for you and me are suffering from a "mental condition?" Is that the same "mental condition" that makes them more likely to serve in some capacity in the US military than the general public? You should be ashamed of yourself. I salute your moniker, but your posts down here about the LGBTQ community are straight out of a toilet, with all due respect.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...w-many-trans-people-serve-in-the-u-s-military
     
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    On second thought, maybe Trump is on the right path. Next stop, ban all minorities, women, gays, and non-Trumpanzees from the military. That way when Trump sends them off to war, we'll only be losing deplorables.
     
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    So this guy's reasoning is political and expects me to take him seriously?
     
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    I wonder how this decision will alter the suicide rate in the military. Hopefully it will drop.
     
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    Banning any group from the military would make the suicide rate drop, genius.
     
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    I don't think you did the math. Can you expand on why you believe that?
     
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    The more relevant question, at least to me, is how it alters the overall suicide rate. Any policy that has the effect of potentially ostracizing an already vulnerable population, rather than being accepting of them, probably doesn't help that number.
     
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    Is that more relevant to the well being and lethality of the military?
     
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    As I said before, whites commit suicide far more than blacks. So if you just kicked all the white people out the military you'd also drop the suicide rate.
     
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    but not blacks or women so what he posted is completely nonsensical. I'm curious if he is that stupid or meant something else.
     
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    That is a good question. Though one can also make the argument to ban mixed-gender combat units which may by some measure degrade cohesiveness and overall effectiveness. It's a slippery slope when you say it's Ok to ban an entire group from serving rather than assessing individuals on their merit and character.
     
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    Honestly I support this measure in that the number 1 issue the military should be paying attention to is combat readiness, not dealing with social issues and distractions like this tranny BS. There's no question that having to deal with members struggling with transsexualism would take away from combat readiness, so this shouldn't be controversial. The military already bars enlistment of those dealing with a host of mental illness, this would be just another on the list.

    That said, I commend anyone who is willing to put their individual BS aside and serve in the military no matter what they have going on in their heads.
     
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    What makes you think that making people hide who they are and live a lie would decrease suicide rates? It's not like thousands of transgender people suddenly joined the military after the ban was lifted - most of them just hid it. Same as gay and lesbian soldiers with DADT.
     

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