Trump: Transgenders no longer welcome in the military

prejudices are a function of civilized society... debate and discussion allows us to reasonably discuss such statements without being lambasted. Its unfortunate that there are many on this forum that feel it to be a threat that another person has a difference in opinion...

 

Calling a bigot a bigot is not "lambasting" someone.

 

Fixed.

Kind of like the Pentagon saying "ask the White House" eh?

 

Lambasted. He quoted your prejudicial statement and labeled it.

No one feels threatened here. You say TG people are mentally ill and certainly others in America agree with that.

Own it and don't be such a snowflake.

 

Actually, it doesn't. Gender is social, sex is scientific. That is beside the point and a longer discussion.

The problem here is that you are not advocating for all military to serve one tour.

I think the irony here is that this was the same argument made for women, that they were far too fragile to serve in the military.

You are appealing to authority which I have no problem with really, yet, the advisors under Obama said let's do this and you're instantly telling them they were/are wrong...but turn around and say that Trump's advisors are right.

I think the bigger issue here is that you are willing to let stats rule over individual freedoms. I mean, let's just take that further. Blacks commit more crime, so let's legislate on that stat. Forget the individual completely. This is essentially what you are doing.

"Trans are more prone to suicide thus EVERY single trans person is unfit to serve."

 

The "shower thing" was never a thing until the left made it a thing...and put it on a social platform. Gender fluid, non binary, cisbinary...wtf does these terms even mean anymore? At some point the quiet majority will challenge these stances and demand reasonable debate. There is zero reason why a biological male is in female barracks. The prior policy allowed for this stance.

There are medications that can control my asthma and I can perform at a peak/optimum platform that a non asthmatic can...no liability sir.

 

How to become a hero to the left...

Trump tweets something not in your favor.

 

And you are allowed to have your opinion and we are allowed to call it what it is.

Transphobic. Whether you want to believe it or not, this is what you are. Whether the label tagged onto you hurts your feelings or you don't care, the definition here fits you.

You are saying that Transgender people are mentally unfit to serve, I wonder where you draw this line for them. I wonder and fear where Trump and others will draw the line. What else are they mentally unfit to do?

 

Easy to call someone a bigot when you know nothing about them, other than a stance you dont like on a given topic...Ill chalk up your idiocy to ignorance...

 

I never cared about the race, politics, sexual orientation or identity of people I served with.

Whoever they are, at least they had the courage to sign up and potentially die if need be.

 

All I know about you are your statements.

 

Ive spent the past hour defending my stance...dont see me running away...

 

you are a bigot. you have openly maligned sterotyped an entire subgroup of people, people who have bravely served this country and your right to be a bigot. just bc you don't think it's wrong doesn't make the label go away.

 

Given the material you post, I don't find it unreasonable to think you're a bigot. Could be a swell guy when it comes to discussing topics not related to your bigoted POV. Science doesn't dictate that there are 2 genders. You know this. There's plenty of evidence of other biological animals that are hermaphroditic and go through different stages of their life as either a male and later on female. You may reply, "But I'm not talking about clownfish (Imagine how Finding Nemo should have really played out), hyenas, cuttlefish, and garter snakes! I'm talking about humans! Only humans are born as either male or female." Which would be a false statement too given that chromosomal mutations allow for hermaphrodites and other sexual mutations during pre-natal development. It's not as black and white as you make it. I know he's your guy and all but this was an asinine move to denigrate a very tiny population of American taxpayers their right to defend a country we both love, all to appease a minority populace of supporters like yourself.

 

You have the right to your opinion...however shitty it may be...

 

My expertise lie within the realm of the Human...really stopped reading after this point.

 

Predicted that in the first post. You bigots are predictable. You look for evidence that aligns with your POV instead of taking in all the data that could give a real answer. What's your specialty BTW? Or are you a family practice doctor?

 

So you didn't read a few sentences later when he talks about humans that are biologically neither male or female? Or is this biologically impossible, according to your expertise?

In any case, gender and sex are different things. "Science" doesn't say otherwise.