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Trump: Transgenders no longer welcome in the military

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Jul 26, 2017.

  1. JuanValdez

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    You actually think this was a budgetary decision????
     
  2. marky :)

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    Lol I'm starting to believe this is a troll account. There's no way someone is this stupid.
     
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    If it wasn't then why else would he do this? I keep hearing social agenda but I highly doubt Trump cares about that.
     
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    At least he is trying though. It's part of evolution of the species.
     
  5. JayGoogle

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    A variety of reasons...but do any of them matter to the Trans people in service?

    The action, in the end, is what matters and all that matters.
     
  6. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    Just a Russian getting paid in cigarettes so don't expect much actual effort, da?
     
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  7. SWTsig

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    says who? you? trump? some other right wing religious zealot who cares nothing about science and objective facts and bases all their decisions on a twisted interpretation of some religious text???

    get over yourself, chief. you don't have a ****ing clue.
     
  8. Amiga

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    It shouldn't matter much, but.. lol

     
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  9. SWTsig

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    to ham up to his far right base that still supports him regardless of motivation or facts. people like you who continue to lap up his bullshit thinking he gives a flying rats ass about anything than his own self preservation. already reports that his own SoD was opposed to this move and he does it anyways... why in the hell do you think? he doesn't hate transgenders like he doesn't hate gays or blacks... he just doesn't care about anyone other than himself. this sure as hell isn't about money - we just increased our military budget by 100's of BILLIONS.

    everything with him is s stunt to keep what few remaining deplorables he has on his side.
     
  10. sugrlndkid

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    LOL.
    Science says..that there are biologically 2 genders...genotypically. Period. X and Y chromosome...Nothing religious about it.

    Furthermore, the military had this band until just very recently i believe...as Obama decided it was time to troll the military before he left office. Trump is just undoing yet another idiotic Obama decision.
     
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    I just learned that July 26, 69 years ago, was the day Truman desegregated the armed forces.
     
  12. JayGoogle

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    That isn't the argument you made.

    Where is the proof that all transgenders are too fragile to be in the military?

    Do you think then that the military vetting process has a huge flaw in it to let these people in?
     
  13. SWTsig

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    accepted science also says that gender and sex are not the same thing. besides, who are these people that get off on stripping away the dignity of their fellow human beings? as others have mentioned, if a TG person isn't mentally stable enough to serve it'll come out in the vetting process, just like anyone else. to ban all of them from serving is despicable and cowardly.
     
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    The White house has stated that President Trump and his national security advisors have determined that Obama's policy decision that only recently went into effect was idiotic and hindered military preparedness.

    I am here to say that TG individuals are faced with complex issues, and often times face enormous mental anguish. If we are currently preventing individuals with mental illnesses to not be in active service, TG individuals should also be disqualified.
     
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    you know what segment of the population develop extremely high cases of mental illness... SOLDIERS. should we ban everyone who has served one tour of active duty too?? can't have all that PTSD and anxiety and incredibly high rates of suicide in our military, right?
     
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    Just making sure I am highlighting the correct prejudicial statement...
     
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  17. JayGoogle

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    So, what makes Obama's national security advisors wrong and Trump's right?
     
  18. CometsWin

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    If we're going to screen for mental illness to prevent people from serving in the military then we should probably screen people running for President for mental illness before they're allowed to make military decisions.
     
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    The left doesnt even know what position to defend...Science argues against the stance that there are more than 2 genders...

    I have still continued to be very clear...my very first post in this thread was to indicate that there are ONLY two genders...My second argument was that TG face enormous social pressure and are more apt to experiencing anxiety, depression and an increased risk of suicide than the general population...I have provided those wanting links of the increased risk of suicide that TG individuals face(especially those within the age bracket the military chooses to hire)...scroll up and read links ive provided in my responses.

    I dont know what are the processes that the military has that vets potential candidates...Those who served are more likely to give you a better answer.
     
  20. sugrlndkid

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    I cant say why Obama chose to make bad decisions...ask him...
     

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