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Ariza likely gone with Ryno

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by brewer's goat, Jul 24, 2017.

  1. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    1. This is a game of chicken where both NYK and Melo have more to lose than the Rockets. We just need to stay in our lane. Like I said before, there is nothing wrong holding course and going into the season with the roster as is. Ryno is hardly a scrub as our 3rd/4th option.

    2. The season will most likely start bad regardless. We have 2 ball dominant guards that need to learn to mesh. If this makes Melo lose interest, then we don't want him here anyways.

    3. It is not just for the playoffs, but to allow us to sustain the rigors of the season and stay fresh and healthy for the playoffs. That's the end goal.
     
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  2. YOLO

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    doesn't matter how long it takes. the only people this matters to is all the people sitting and waiting like its supposed to happen when guessed upon. it's pretty clear melo is motivated for this coming season and has made it pretty evident that hou is his preferred spot. And someone with a NTC, that is a pretty big deal. signing tucker and luc does not mean he is prepping for ariza not to be here. those are moves by design to what hou is building. neither of those guys can replace ariza as a full time starter.

    so what if the rox go into the season with the roster they have now. it's without a doubt a good team as is and a upper west seed. NY would be the dumb ones to go into another terrible season with an unhappy player who happens to be a well known talent across the league.

    And the point of getting those guys is bc they are all playable, guys who can guard multiple positions, and especially during this small ball era there's plenty of situations for minutes so yeah they will likely all be playing
     
  3. K-Low_4_Prez

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    Your right Morey does assign values to every player but if you have listened to anything he has ever said over the past decade you would pick up on the fact that he values Superstar players above everything else and it's not even close...

    Are we really talking about the same Trevor Arizas and Carmelo Anthonys here?

    At the end of the day trading Ariza could potentially be the difference between taking on a trash contract and not and I think Morey would rather not limit his moves going forward by not taking on bad salary.
     
  4. chenjy9

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    1. Melo is not a superstar anymore. A superstar is someone like Harden or CP3.
    2. You still don't seem to understand. It is not Ariza vs Melo. It is the fact that we will be losing out on BOTH Ariza and Ryno and replacing them with Melo. That is a pretty big step backwards IMO.
     
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    For the people saying Ariza isn't valuable here's what he brings.

    Championship experience.
    Great wing defender/slasher.
    top ten in steals every year.
    great locker room guy and teammate.
    likable guy around league.
    currently one of the cheapest if not the best value contracts in the league.

    Ariza was lodging alot of mints and was asked to do alot, If melo gets traded here then Ariza's numbers and shooting percentage with fresh legs will be alot better.
     
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    This guy is probably pulling strings and hoping Ariza ends up getting included in a trade somehow, but he's not a part of the discussions at all right now.
     
  7. chenjy9

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    Thanks for the insight, much appreciated!
     
  8. A_3PO

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    A guy I work with that is a Blazers fan is saying they will get Ryno instead of Ariza, not both.

    We can hope.
     
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    Yea this is stupid. Carmelo is definitely a superstar. Ppl confuse a guy playing on a bad team & bad organization as not being a superstar. Carmelo can literally put up superstar numbers but it go unnoticed because his team is dysfunctional. Had he left NY & formed a superteam in his prime, you'd be calling him one of goat's. The only thing we can confirm is his skillset is elite, & nobody in the NBA can guard him one on one
     
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    trying to gauge your definition of superstar to see if it's consistent.

    did you consider kevin love and cousins superstars during their times in minny and sac?
     
  11. koby1868

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    If we give up Anderson and Ariza for Melo I will be very disappointed.
     
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    Shipping out Ariza to acquire Melo would be a lateral move (if not worse). Ariza needs to stay.
     
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    I'm assuming the better description/question would be, "is he capable of being a superstar".

    I believe Melo is capable of being a superstar with our roster. However, that window is slightly cracked for maybe another year.

    It's almost the same feeling when we got Barkley from Phoenix. :eek:
     
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    Is that guy a fan or insider?
     
  15. YOLO

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    no im actually trying to see what kind of players he considers superstars bc my definition is different.

    to me that's the highest label a player can get and it takes into account everything that translates to W's and not just a numbers thing, and that list is not long and it also doesn't include a 33 year old melo
     
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    The problem now is that Brooklyn locked up a ton of their cap space with the Crabbe trade. Only couple places that can fit RA now, maybe Trevor has to be a sweetener. Not liking it.
     
  17. True Rocket

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    If Ariza gets traded Harden, cp3, Capela, Bobby Brown will all demand trades. Morey would step down and Les wouldn't be able to sell the team.
     
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    you see that guy on the portland board say dont do it ---- ryno who ever there gm name is, and then the thread got deleted lol
     
  19. thirdengine

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    Melo + LeBron >>>> Anderson + Ariza
     
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  20. Spooner

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    Please. Trevor isn't getting traded. Don't you find it the least bit convenient that Portland opened up almost the exact difference in salary between Harkless and Ryan Anderson? They could essentially trade Harkless for Anderson now. That wasn't possible before today
     

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