you are getting quoted on the spurs board now. http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=269785&page=29 keep breaking news
damn this dude is full of drama. This same crap happened last year. That team is full of drama with Kyrie, TTboy Thompson, LBJ, JR, Gilbert. It's crazy!!!! “It hasn’t been difficult. I’ve been through a ton of adversity in my life. It’s nothing anyone can say that I can’t get through,’’ said Irving, adding, “[With] everything surrounding our team, it’s crazy to think we’re still in first place and we’re still the team to beat, honestly, regardless of what anybody else says.’’ Irving first addressed the situation Wednesday night with since-deleted tweets captured on a screen grab by Cleveland Sports Talk. “It’s been hard to see what’s been going on and not address the truth. I do not justify the picture or what (that) dude did to try and spark all of this non sense [sic] that could have been avoided, but Me and Kehlani were not dating when the picture came out. It’s unfortunate that it’s received so much attention but its [sic] become bigger because of a post that was misunderstood. Nothing but love and compassion over this way for her and her family. My only focus the Game I love to play every night.” “He’s got my support, and he knows it,’’ said LeBron James, who had 24 points and 11 assists, passing Dominique Wilkins for 12th on the NBA’s all-time scoring list. “I just think as a team we’re all there for him. It’s our job to make sure he’s OK, he’s in good hands. And just being around his teammates and being around the guys he competes with every night makes him at ease,’’ said Cavs coach Tyronn Lue. When asked by The Post whether he took it upon himself to talk to Irving, 24, Lue answered: “I’d rather not speak about that. Yes, I talked with Kyrie. But that’s between us. And like I said, our team, we all have his back and we’re with him 100 percent.’
I swear the Melo Drama will be cut to half if they had won the championship....winning cures it all! Also a Wiggins, Dieng and Pick for KI and fillers sounds mighty interesting.
I had never heard of this guy but I have to say: this man's use of punctuation is revolutionary. And I mean it. And no I'm not high.
Egos getting in the way. Lebron is the best player in the NBA. He is the king maker and has an ego and attitude to match. Bosh and Wade understood Lebron's place in the world and Lebron respected Wade and Bosh more than he respects Kyrie and Love which is why it worked in Miami and their relationship is still good. Kyrie is still in his early 20's and forgets that he is not good enough to carry a team. Honestly he will never be good enough to carry a team. He is a slightly taller Isiah Thomas except Thomas scores more easily than Kyrie.
Spoiler http://www.nba.com/article/2017/07/...and-cavaliers-kyrie-irving-scenarios-2017-18/ SCENARIO 1 Do Nothing Even with Irving’s request hanging in the air, the Cavs would still enter next season as the prohibitive favorite in the Eastern Conference. So the Cavs don’t have to do anything, and may not until Altman gets his proverbial feet on the ground. At the worst, they could use the first half of 2017 to see if there’s a blockbuster deal out there for Irving that makes sense for them. But this scenario gambles that James would be okay entering next season with basically the same team from a year ago, when he’s made it clear he wanted management to improve the roster in order to give Cleveland a better chance to beat Golden State in a potential fourth straight Finals matchup. And everything with Cleveland starts and ends with what James will do in 2018. How would Cleveland handle media day if Irving and James are both still on the team? Reporters will have to be persistent in asking Irving if he wants out of town, or just doesn’t want to play with James. There’s a fairly significant difference there. And James will have to answer if he wants to play with Irving anymore under these strained circumstances. And that would just be the first day; all the ‘I’m not talking about that’ proclamations will be hard to enforce all year long. What happens when Irving goes 2-for-13 in a game, or if James starts dropping hints via his various social media platforms during the year that he’s not pleased? The status quo doesn’t, at least right now, seem like a realistic solution. (Unmentioned, as ever, when it comes to the Cavs: what about Love, who’s been mentioned in trade rumors since the end of the Finals? Can Cleveland bring him back, or does it have to move him this summer? That would impact James’s thought process, too.) SCENARIO 2 Trade Irving This Summer New York Sure, Carmelo Anthony has said he’d waive his no-trade clause to be dealt to Cleveland (or Houston). But that presumably was to join a team with James and Irving on it, not one where he’s dealt for Irving. And the Cavs would have little incentive in dealing the 25-year-old Irving for the 33-year-old Anthony — unless Krystaps Porzingis, was coming with him. That’s highly unlikely — even though I don’t get the feeling Porzingis, while liked very much, is viewed as a franchise player just yet by the new guys in charge in New York, team President Steve Mills and General Manager Scott Perry. A Unicorn-less Knicks-Cavs trade would be difficult. Can’t see Cleveland considering New York’s first-round pick, point guard Frank Ntilikina, and Courtney Lee a suitable return for Irving; you’d imagine the Cavs might ask for someone like all-rookie selection Willy Hernangomez, too. (Ntilikina couldn’t be traded until next month per Collective Bargaining Agreement rules, anyway.) Including Anthony would complicate matters, but could — at least conceivably — bring someone like Love into what would quickly become an even bigger blockbuster. Miami There’s not a natural fit here, unless the Heat was willing to talk Hassan Whiteside, and why would Cleveland do that when Tristan Thompson is cheaper? Goran Dragic is very good, but he’s 31, and not likely to excite the Cavs even in the short term, even in a package including the likes of Josh Richardson or Justise Winslow. But, never count Riles out if he’s determined to get his man. San Antonio A straight Spurs-Cavs deal is unlikely; the Spurs just don’t have enough contracts and/or prospects to make it work. A third team would probably have to get involved, and an obvious candidate would be Phoenix, which has young players, solid vets and old guys on reasonable contracts — any of which could be put into a deal. But the Suns would have to still want LaMarcus Aldridge, who they nearly wooed successfully two years ago before he opted to sign with the Spurs. Aldridge’s uneven play the last two years could certainly have scotched the Suns’ interest in him. If not, Phoenix could move Eric Bledsoe — whose agent, Rich Paul, is also James’ agent — to Cleveland, the Cavs could send Irving to San Antonio and another contract like Iman Shumpert’s to Phoenix, and the Spurs could sharpshooter and defender Danny Green to the Cavs, with Aldridge going to the Suns. (Another wrinkle: James Jones, one of LeBron’s closest friends, just took a front office job in Phoenix after playing the last seven years with James in Miami and Cleveland.) Or, Phoenix could just cut out the Texas middleman and deal directly with the Cavs; Bledsoe and whichever of the Suns’ young first-rounders last year suits Cleveland’s fancy — Dragan Bender or Marquese Chriss — could be a good starting point to talk turkey. SCENARIO 3 Trade Irving at the Trade Deadline in February, 2018 Waiting until the deadline would allow Cleveland to work on repairing the relationship with Irving, while also mining the league to get more teams involved in what surely would be a bidding war for an elite level point guard. Minnesota A league source says Irving initially wanted to go to Chicago before the Draft to play with Jimmy Butler, a fellow Olympian with whom Irving has become close. But the Bulls didn’t have the pieces to make a deal work with the Cavs, and opted to trade Butler to the Timberwolves for Kris Dunn, Zach LaVine and the seventh pick overall, which became Arizona forward Lauri Markkanen. But how would this work? Minnesota just committed $57 million to free agent point guard Jeff Teague, whom Coach Tom Thibodeau pushed hard to sign. Thibodeau loved how Teague ran pick and roll in Atlanta with Al Horford, and also appreciates Teague’s durability; the 29-year-old Teague has played in 459 out of a possible 476 regular season games the last seven seasons. So it’s hard at first blush to envision Thibs pulling off of Teague for Irving. For purposes of this exercise, though, let’s say Minnesota is interested, if for no other reason than Butler would like to get Irving in tow. Cleveland would certainly ask for Andrew Wiggins as the centerpiece in return; by then, he probably would have agreed to the extension that Thibodeau said last week was in the offing. That would mean Irving would play the two alongside Teague, with Butler at the three. Could that work? Offensively, yes, but it would be problematic at the other end of the floor. Even if the Cavs were willing to take Teague back instead, they would certainly want more; maybe the Wolves’ first-rounder, Justin Patton, along with Teague, for Irving would be palatable. (Teague can’t be traded until December and Patton can’t be moved until August.) L.A. Clippers The retooling Clips certainly could put a package together with all the pieces they got in the Chris Paul deal, but they might need some help from another team to pull off a potential deal for Irving. Denver is always a willing trade partner and is in need of a point guard upgrade; the Nuggets wouldn’t get Irving in a potential three-teamer with the Clips and Cavs, but L.A. just signed Milos Telodosic, the best point guard in Europe, to a three-year deal; he can’t be moved until December. By then, Cleveland could send Irving to L.A., with Patrick Beverley and Lou Williams going to the Cavs. In this scenario, Teodosic would go to Denver with Montrezl Harrell, with veteran Darrell Arthur going from the Nuggets to Cleveland, and the Nuggets giving the Clippers one of their surplus of 2018 second-round picks. SCENARIO 4 Trade Irving in July, 2018 By this time next year, the Cavs should have some idea of James’s future intentions. If he has indicated he wants to stay in Cleveland, a potential Irving trade would be much different than if the Cavs believe James is going to walk. If James is leaving, the Cavs would be in full rebuild mode and would certainly want young players and picks; if James is staying, they’d want veterans who could help him win in 2018-19 and beyond. Again: this is all academic. But if the Cavs wait a year and then decide to move Irving, there would again be a lot of potential trade partners. Boston? The Celtics wouldn’t seem to be an ideal trade partner for Cleveland; the Cavs would be strengthening their closest conference rival, and Irving’s ball dominance would seem to be at odds with the ball movement that has been a staple of Boston’s offense since Brad Stevens’s arrival. But both the Cs and Cavs would have reason for walking past the conventional wisdom if it makes their respective teams better. Boston certainly wouldn’t have to make a deal; the Cs are already in ascendancy in the East, so why sacrifice any assets to Cleveland at all? Just get some popcorn, re-sign Isaiah Thomas next July and watch the Cavs implode. If you’re Boston, you’d only deal for Irving if you believed him better than Thomas and a seminal talent, one who could help the Celtics compete with the likes of Golden State for a championship, and beat them. Well, he’s already been directly involved with beating the Warriors in the Finals, in Golden State, in 2016. And, Boston may well be keeping its powder dry to make a trade push for the Pelicans’ Anthony Davis next summer.
Kyrie is a special player... but atm he's not even considered one of the superstars of the league. 1. Lebron 2. Curry 3. Durant 4. Westbrook 5. Harden 6. Kawhi ...... the star(s) category begins 7. Kyrie 8. Anthony Davis 9. Giannis Antetokounmpo 10. Paul George etc.... He had his own team before Lebron got their and didn't do sh** because he couldn't stay on the floor. Now he wants to leave to what... have his own team? And still not do sh** because he won't have the best player on the planet by his side. He should just stay put and wait for Lebron to leave, then they can trade it all away start it over and build around him. Unless he just hates Cleveland, which I don't blame him then.
If I were the Wizards I would strongly consider a Beal for Kyrie trade. Would make sense for both teams.
A trade with Charlotte makes a lot of sense. Howard for Love (need to break trade in 2 as Howard cannot be traded in combination) Walker + Batum for Irving + Thomspon CLE: Howard, Lebron, Batum, Jr, Walker CHA: Thompson, Love, Williams, MKG, Irving (or Monk instead of Williams) Irving gets his team. Charlotte gets 2 big-name stars, plus gets rid of two bad contracts (Batum, Howard). They can also insert Monk into the starting lineup and flip Williams for an asset. Cleveland gets an upgrade at C, and turns Irving into 2 strong starters that are a better fit for Lebron. Their defense improves dramatically without losing much on offense (if anything they get an extra playmaker in Batum). Walker is the closest replacement to Irving. Howard and Batum are massive upgrades on Thompson and Love defensively, Kemba is much better defensively than Irving, those 3 next to Lebron can build a defensive juggernaut.
