Can 3 ball dominant players co-exist on the same team?

It can work; if they all (sincerely) want it to work. Assuming, of course, it happens here and not Cleavesburg. Assuming, of course, the price given up isn't silly steep.

 

Have you seen Team USA play? Half of the team are all-stars.

 

All they have to do to keep their ego in check.

 

That's a fair example and something to consider. I think there are a few things in these guys favor that should make things different.

1. Coaching and his system. MDA will put these guys in situations to be successful and use their talents.
2. Talent. All of these guys can create their own shots at a high level. Melo has lost a step but he will be a 2nd 3rd option and face a lot of 1/1 in space. Not like in NY where he was the focal point and teams could load up for him. I think Harden no longer trusted Howard to score down low with that ball. Heck I think we all grew tired of those struggling post moves that led to empty possessions (if he got fouled he missed the FTs).
3. Harden and CP are creators and Melo is a shooter/scorer. Those two things go together. If we brought Melo in to run the offense through him all the time that would not work. Melo will be getting the. All in scoring situations so he won't need to pass or create all the time. Just get buckets Melo. He is a great catch and shoot guy

 

You know for a second there I actually thought you had some basketball knowledge....then I read this post.

 

I thought of the same thing. I am doubtful. It's hard enough to have two co-exist. I cannot this was done before. To make it work, two of them have to take a backseat. Even with KD, Curry, Clay, it was not easy for a stretch. I guess they will have to keep winning.

 

What's funny to me is that most are worried about melo fitting in.

In terms of fit melo is perfect for any ball dominant pick and roll pg, we have the 2 best maybe ever.

All melo has to do is play the Anderson roll. Only difference is that if the defense closes out on melo before he can get the three off, He actually has the ability to dribble and pull up from mid range or take it to the hoop.

That's something the Anderson could not do. Now if he could do it i doubt the rockets would even make this move or have any problem finding suiters for Him. It would make him a boarderline allstar and he would have avg 20ppg.

Cp3 with harden is a harder fit to grasp than melo.

Melo gets the ball a lot on Nyc because he's the best player and the knicks suck, they need to him shoot and dominate the ball a lot to even have a chance.

In houston he could play his more ideal role, play off others, catch and shoot and attack scrambling defenses.

As someone else mentioned earlier. All three guys are very good catch and shoot players.

Cp3 in on par with steph curry in that department. Prior to this season harden was in the 95th percentile in catch and shoot threes. Melo has always been a very good catch and shoot player from midrange and still very solid from three.

And the real reason it works? there all first ballot hall of fame players. These guys arnt just allstar level,
There all legit superstars and harden and cp3 are MVP caliber.

Talent trumps fit if your trying to win championships and cp3/melo/harden is a lot of talent and the fit is there because of the elite players they are and the shooting.

Combine them with a supporting cast of Ariza/Tucker/Gordon/Capela/nene and you got a team that would be favored by vegas to win the chip hands down if there wasn't that juggernaut in Oakland.

Rockets will instantly be the second best team in the league and will imo be the only team that can potentially upset the warriors. Cavs have the wrong pieced around there big three and of harden is our Lebron I'll take cp3 and melo all day over kyrie and love and I'm sure Lebron would agree with me, because I'm pretty sure he's tried to make those trades happen.

 

Let's just clear some of this up...

What is Paul's fg% on assisted 3's?

What is Anthony's fg% on assisted 3's?

Once you look it up and see both start with a "5", you will have your answer.

 

No. Nothing works with Dwight demanding the ball and pouting. That's on him.

But, it's good that you are getting your practice in on this debate. I'm sure ESPN and every other news outlet will debate this ad nauseum before the season starts. And I'm sure at least 10 threads will rehash it over and over.

And by the time the season starts, everyone who likes this dumb debate of "there's only one ball" will have their narratives and "I told you so's" ready for agenda posting....

I'm so excite.

 

As long Melo and Harden cut to the basket will be good

 

New Poll -

Would you substitute "ball dominant players" with:

Trio of HOFers in prime

Like a dumb amount of All Star appearances All Stars in prime.

Like a dumb amount of Dream Team Men's USA basketball players in prime. So much Gold.

D: all of the above

 

The Olympics are a short tournament, different rules and most of all don't have corrupt refs taking orders from Silver.

 

Who cares if it works or not DD? Just enjoy it. With a team like the Warriors all in their primes, who really gives a ****? This is so ****ing exciting that were actually putting together something that can actually give us this conversation when the rest of the NBA fans are sitting around at home wiping Morey's nut sweat off their dressers.

 

They had everything to lose and nothing to gain. They were playing for the good ol USA and that is how they put their egos aside. If they were able to make it work then, no reason why they couldn't now.

Additionally, Melo was being used in the triangle system where his game might not be suited.

Chris and James seems to think it can work and I have confidence with their basketball knowledge. I put my trust on our leaders.

 

Ya Me7o will have 2 of the top assist guys in the NBA getting him the easiest looks of his career. I'm not sure how he will cope with that.

 

I picked the third option: It'll kinda work. I hope it totally works, but I have concerns.

First of all, we have no way of knowing if it'll work. Harden was in god-mode this season both scoring and assisting as an actual point guard. And he will now relinquish that role to the most point-guardy point guard in the league. We haven't seen James in a role where he's being fed the ball most of the time instead of controlling it himself. We just haven't. Luckily, we bought THE expert at feeding people the ball. But this is all new; we have no idea how it will turn out.

My number one concern is actually the rigid system the team uses constraining the immense talent of these three. Melo is a great shooter from anywhere. I hope he's not stuck behind the arc (per coach's and GM's orders) when the situation is unfavorable for that approach. Paul is a massively-intelligent facilitator. I want him to have all the freedom he needs to do what he does best. Harden had a great stepback jumper which he seems to have scrapped this past year. I hope it comes back; he's an inconsistent three-point shooter even if his overall average is pretty good. James is an absolute terror to the other team driving to the basket. He needs the freedom to go for the score and not worry so much about kick out passes to the three-point line. Oftentimes, they're great; oftentimes, they're dangerous as hell.

I think Paul is the linchpin to making it work with all three of these guys, and I don't want him to be constrained, because it will hurt everyone. "The system" may get you a good seed in the regular season, but it frequently breaks down in the playoffs. You just hired three expensive actors; don't give them a poor script.

 

He's one of the best scorers of all time and a complete beast shooting assisted jumpshots, you WANT him to shoot on every open opportunity.

If he sticks to his strengths, assists and rebounds aren't a priority. And still, with our offense and the roster I think we'll see a lot of hockey passes and a nice assist ratio for Melo.

 

Dwight was a ball dominant player that couldn't score when he dominated the ball...his entire career. This is a hilariously bad example.

Melo is in decline. I'd rather have him as the 4th ball dominant player. But the man is good and I think he is ready to be third fiddle. He's a great off the ball player, as is Paul. It looks like both know this is Harden's team.

The issue isn't going to be ball hogging, it's going to be positions 4-9 on this team. There will be too many scrubs around these guys. The problem that the yaomac era had, it's the problem that cleveland has. It's a problem when you have to play golden state.

you need a super team with super depth