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Woj - Rockets trying to complete deal for Melo

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ItsMyFault, Jul 8, 2017.

  1. malakas

    malakas Member

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    Once again.
    Nothing in return is better than negative value if that's the best possible.
    Harkless + Leonard = huge negative value.
    Anderson = huge negative value
    Carmelo opts out and leaves = capspace.
     
  2. KlutchQT

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    LOL.
     
  3. Bobbythegreat

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    LOL again, that's just not an option and would make the Knicks a bigger joke than they already are. It's honestly not even worth discussing further because that crazy hot take is similar to the person who says "Nuke them all" in a discussion about middle east policy.

    Even the idle threat would do nothing but harm to the Knicks because everyone would know they were full of it.
     
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  4. CXbby

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    Portland. Haven't you read the rumored trades before making your claims? Supposed to be for Harkless + Leonard or Ed Davis, plus a pick coming from Hou(maybe 2020 1st) going to NY.
     
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  5. malakas

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    ahh and who exactly will absorb Leonard's bad contract? We can't.
     
  6. CXbby

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    Harkless is not negative value. A 1st round pick is not negative value. Cap space isn't that valuable if you are just going to spend it on the likes of Tim Hardaway Jr, who btw is a worse player than Anderson. NY is a cesspool right now where no one who has options wants to go to.
     
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  7. malakas

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    ok.. :rolleyes: If you are a joke already then better be a joke without Anderson's albatross contract in your books.
     
  8. KlutchQT

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    Not speaking to this situation specifically (or characterizing Ryan as "trash") -- but it seems a lot of people don't understand the concept of cap space sometimes being preferable to taking trash just to say you got something back. Somebody argued me down on Twitter yesterday that Doc would 1000% have taken a far lesser package for CP3 because he had no leverage and couldn't afford to lose him for nothing. Like, that isn't how this works.
     
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    @malakas

    WOJ -
    Don't think the Knicks are going to sit on Anthony.
     
  10. CXbby

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    Dude, this is seriously not Rocket science.

    Leonard is a $10m/ year bad contract. Its not the end of the world. You take him, and get assets in Harkless and a 1st. That is better than getting nothing while Melo walks.
     
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  11. malakas

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    Harkless is at best zero value contract if not slightly negative. Maybe you can get dump his contract with a second rounder if you are lucky and a team wants him.
     
  12. Fullcourt

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    I like your assessment but I'm not convinced that Wade sees himself as a 20 min per game player yet.
     
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    Lulz
     
  14. Tha_Dude

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    Yeah, all of these posters who think we're going to land Melo for Ryno in a straight up deal are potato heads. :p

    That said, I don't think we have a zero chance of landing him. There is always a chance he could pick us once he's bought out but I still think Cleveland will be his first choice.
     
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  15. CXbby

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    You act like Melo is some budding 22 year old superstar. He is 33 and a known chucker. There is only about a handful of teams that would even want him on their team. And there is exactly 2 teams he even will allow the Knicks to trade him to.

    News flash: Melo is a bad contract - because you can't get **** for him.
     
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    And that would be the case if Mills was still in charge. Which was why I was very optimistic about mr Potato's "bombs".
    But that doesn't mean at all that if Griffin is hired that will be the case.
    Plus not sharing the floor doesn't mean not having Carmelo benched for a few weeks until he relents.
     
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    Why the heck are people calling Harkless a bad contract? He has upside, is a decent two way player on a modest contract, and can shoot the 3 decently? You can work with a guy like that. He's a more complex package than Hardaway Jr.
     
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    That is NOT a bad contract. LOL
    A bad contract is a contract that requires you to give up value to trade off your team.
    Anderson is a bad contract.
    Caroll is a bad contract
    Noah is a bad contract
    Asik is a bad contract
    Meyers Leonard is a bad contract Harkless is a slightly bad contract. Turner is a bad contract
    and so on and so on.

    A potential expiring like Carmelo even if he was unplayable is NOT a bad contract. Not to mention that he can actually play.
    Few teams? LOL. Almost every team in the league would love to have an expiring Carmelo at his salary by trading off their bad contracts like Anderson, and 100% teams in the league would love to have him at vet min.
     
  19. saleem

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    Yes, I think he will consider Cleveland first if he agrees to a buyout. But I believe he wants a S/T, or to stay in NY, instead of that.
     
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    Nice.

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