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[LI] This is what Fake News looks like: Polish First Lady “passes over” Trump handshake

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  1. Amiga

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    So sensitive. Its worth a laughter for a few seconds. Making a big deal out of nothing.

    There are real fake news out there. This is dumb.
     
  2. crossover

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    I laughed that Trump supporters in this thread got their panties so quickly in a wad over a meaningless piece of fake news. How about focusing on fake news that matter like this one?

    Unfortunately, Trump supporters are just not that intelligent and have selective bias. Too much fear of becoming antiquated and backwards in a world that's progressing for the better without them.

    http://www.salon.com/2017/07/06/fox-news-uses-misleading-statistics-to-push-an-authoritarian-agenda/
    Fox News uses misleading statistics to push an authoritarian agenda
    Police officer deaths tragically rose this year — mostly because of accidents, not violence. Fox omitted that fact
    Fox News ran a headline on Wednesday that seemed to imply that violence against law enforcement was growing throughout the country. “Police Officer Deaths on Duty Have Jumped Nearly 20 Percent in 2017,” the headline read. “The figures suggest a grim trend; 2016 was the deadliest year for police in 5 years,” Fox News wrote, then quoted the national spokesman of pro-police activist group Blue Lives Matter as suggesting that there was “growing violence against law enforcement.”

    The problem with this narrative? It’s not true.

    While police deaths are incredibly tragic and preventable, the statistics that violent attacks on police have risen in the past few years doesn’t square with statistics. Misusing statistics, to suggest that violence against police is rising, furthers Fox News’ authoritarian, fearmongering, and subtly racist conservative narrative. Moreover, the number of police officer deaths per capita — a more relevant statistic, as it considers population changes — declined by 70% from 1980 to 2013, according to a BBC report.

    In their article, Fox News cites The National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund (NLEOMF), which measured all officer fatalities from January 1, 2016 to July 6, 2016 and compared them to the period between January 1, 2017 and July 7, 2017. True, total fatalities have risen by 10, from 57 in 2016 to 67 this year.

    However, Fox omitted that the increase in police deaths is largely a result of non-violent tragic accidents. There was a 17 percent increase in “traffic-related” deaths (four more officers died this year than last), and a 33 percent increase in deaths from “other causes.” In the NLEOMF list, “other causes” includes “aircraft crash, drowning, electrocution, fall, fire-related incident, job related illness, and poison.”

    Yet Blue Lives Matter spokesman Randy Sutton told Fox News unequivocally that this increase was due to violent rampages against police officers.

    “People now are more willing to engage the police in combat,” Sutton told Fox News. “Part of the war on cops [is] the failure of police leadership to step up to the place and not acquiesce to political considerations when it comes to the safety of police officers.”

    “The other part of the war on cops is the failure of the media to post anything positive about police. All they do is put up damaging stories and spin much of that into a narrative that is false and perpetuates a distorted narrative,” he continued.

    Yet only two more cops were killed by firearms this year than last year, the stats show. The rise — from 22 to 24 — represents a 9 percent increase. With that small of a sample size, the number isn’t necessarily statistically significant nor hints at a trend.

    University of Southern California law professor and former policeman Seth Stoughton warned of those who try to warp statistics to infer an increase in violence against police. Quoted in the BBC, Stoughton said:

    “There’s a widespread perception in the American public, and particularly within law enforcement, that officers are more threatened, more endangered, more often assaulted, and more often killed than they have been historically. . . . I think it’s a very strong perception. People truly believe it. But factually, looking at the numbers, it’s not accurate.”

    The Fox report was topical to the tragic murder on Wednesday of New York City police officer Miosotis Familia. But to twist it into a narrative that violence against law enforcement is growing is dangerous, especially given the post–Bush era increase in police militarization, and the growing crackdown against protestors. Last year, private security firms like TigerSwan conducted widespread surveillance and used counterterrorism tactics against Dakota Access Pipeline protesters.

    While the 66 officers that were shot and killed in 2016 is a five-year high, the numbers often fluctuate. CNN reported that 2015 was one of the safest years for officers on record. And in 2007, 70 officers were shot and killed. In 2011, 73 were killed, according to the NLEOMF. Using statistics from 2007 up to this point in 2017, roughly 561 officers have been tragically killed as a result of firearms over that 10-year period.

    This pales in comparison to deaths at the hands of police: American police are currently on track to kill 1,000 people in 2017, for the third year in a row. And blacks are still 2.5 times more likely than whites to be killed by police. Highlighting police deaths isn’t mutually exclusive to highlighting victims of police violence: both are tragedies.
     
  3. conquistador#11

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    so she did or didn't shake hands? need the nfl committee booth review.
    never seen the subject of hands discussed more than with trump! it's a witch hunt to expose small penis? that's what cruz implied once. We fokas so much on hands, that we miss the obvious. Mrs. Trump looks quite perky in that outfit, just locker room talk.
     
  4. RocketsLegend

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    Trying to discredit Fox News by posting from Salon? LMAO
     
  5. Deckard

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    There is plenty of journalistic integrity. Journalistic integrity is exactly what is under assault - by Russia, by trump and his people and those who want him in power in order to use his naivety to their advantage, by the far-right government now in power in Poland, by the current government in Hungary (I went there last summer, btw). Buck pointed this out. The major news organizations are NOT "all the same," and certainly not the so-called news sources that make a living off of real fake news. Entities like Breitbart, for example.
     
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  6. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Dude, CNN has hired people on Trump's actual staff. A couple different people actually. To suggest they are agenda driven like FOX News or talk radio or Breitbart, etc. is just another Trumpanzee false equivalency.
     
  7. Duncan McDonuts

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    Not as bad as Breitbart, but still has an agenda. CNN has turned into Fox News on the opposite spectrum, they used to be better.
     
  8. Duncan McDonuts

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    I agree with you. But you also have to call out these news organizations that willingly publish shitposts like this. It devalues their journal's reputation when they actually report important news. Leave the shitposts to the tabloids.
     
  9. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Bullcrap. There's no comparison.
     
  10. dmoneybangbang

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    Can you discredit what Salon is saying with actual facts? Or not.....?
     
  11. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Fox is Al-Jazera.

    DD
     

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