[Woj] Carmelo Anthony open to waiving no-trade clause for Rockets or Cavaliers

If you want to trade Anderson for Knight the Suns will probably say yes. (no warren who is actually good).
If you want the Knicks to take back Knight ? LOL

 

you understand of course that in this case, the Suns will keep the Rockets out and go get Love for themselves right? They were considering to trade their no.4 pick for him. For Knight and some other minor pieces? They will be over the moon.

 

There is absolutely no way the Suns take Anderson for Knight and Warren. They are not competing on purpose, full rebuild mode. Mentors can be had for the vet minimum or phx can absorb a whole host of mentors on shorter contracts. It's not reasonable to discuss Anderson the player because he has no value to Phoenix on the court. If he makes a good fit on the floor that just means a worse pick for them. Nor do they have any need for him on the floor with two ultra high potential guys in Chriss and Bender at the 4.

If they don't want Knight, they will just dump him. And what they'll have to pay to dump his salary? Warren and a second. At the absolute worst, that's a net neutral package. There is no way they absorb Anderson for that without getting a 1st or Capela. On top of all that, the Knicks will not take Knight. He is almost as overpaid as Anderson. The Knicks don't even want to take on Love who makes 21 but is an all star calibre player. Why would they take Knight who makes $14m and is by all accounts a pretty bad basketball player.

Also if everyone in your scenario is on board, the Suns will just cut us out and take Love. Checks all the same boxes you mentioned and is a better asset to flip.

If Anderson is going anywhere, it's to a team that wants to compete. If I was a betting man, I'd say Detroit would take Anderson and our lotto protected 2020 for Tobias Harris. We could then send Harris and our NG's to the Knicks for Melo or to the Cavs for Love, who will in turn trade those assets to the Knicks for Melo.

 

if Melo is being traded to the Cavs and the Knicks didn't want Love, then they'd just keep the Rockets out of the deal and send Love to PHX for some real assets instead

 

hell no! sending him to the knicks. trade would look like:

cavs get: melo
rockets get: love, dudley
suns get: ryno, nanu, taylor, guarterman, kelly, long
knicks get: warren, 2020 first round pick (hou), knight

getting a starter, young player, and pick is a better haul for melo than other teams got for their star. the suns will lose warren for nothing when he leaves next year to find a starting spot, and ryno actually gives them move value than knight. taking dudley for the TPE offsets the cost for them... but actually fits nicely with us as a stretch 4.

capela (28)-nene (20)
love (32)-dudley (16)
ariza (32)-tucker (24)
harden (32)-ego (24)
cp3 (32)

i'd still sign a vet minimum backup PG and C as injury insurance for paul and nene. save the BAE incase anyone gets bought out mid year.

 

The chances aren't over until the trade deadline.

Some of y'all need to stop with the chicken little mentality

 

so what's to stop detroit from taking love? as you said about my phx scenario, why not cut us out of the equation and keep love themselves? if we are looking for a 3rd team to take anderson and give us assets that the knicks want, that team could just land love themselves.

as you said, to get out of knight's contract it would cost them warren and a 2nd round pick. knight and dudley are they exact same total money owed as anderson. however anderson is a better fit for them. i'm sure they'd do that trade straight up and the rockets wouldn't. warren even's things out, maybe we can throw them a couple of future second rounders with nanu and the rest of the TPE. plus warren's agent will be pushing for a trade. they want a starting spot in his contract year. or at least a major bench role on a playoff team. they want to get paid next summer and its not happening in phx.

the knicks would get a starter, young player, and pick. and we can argue over knight being a starter. he isn't one on any other team, i agree there. but the knicks hands are tied by the NTC. they either buy melo out and get nothing or they get a trade from the cavs or rockets. that offer to the knicks is better than indy got for PG. and they're in a similar situation facing losing their star for nothing.

we can agree that its not the most likely scenario. i think the most likely scenario is we cant move anderson and dont get either love or melo. but in contemplating how might we land melo or love, we can agree to disagree that this is a reasonable solution.

 

It happens.......every.....freaking.....year. Even with Chris Paul in the fold, these guys regarding Morey are worse than Janet (Miss Jackson, if you're nasty): "What have you done for me late-ly?" (Da-duh-nut-DUNH, Dunh, DUNH)

 

The problem is that Detroit needs to drop salary ASAP. Taking back Anderson is more salary than Harris. So this trade is not possible for them.

Teams who look to dump salaries are : Clippers (already done), Denver (if they can get Hill), Detroit, Milwaukee, Toronto , Houston(?), OKC .
Boston will also need to shed salary if they get Hayward today but it will actually not be negative value contracts.

If KCP doesn't get a max offer, then Detroit doesn't need to shed salaries. But they still can't get back even more money back in a trade.

 

i know that this logic is true for every team the rockets call to take anderson so they can get assets to give the knicks.

our only chance is if the cavs don't want to give up love and we go after melo who can use the NTC to determine where he goes, so the rockets won't get cut out.

but cod had posted something about if wade gets bought out he goes to the cavs and that might move melo there too. the only way that happens is for love to get traded. cod also said melo wont go there to be the 4th or 5th guy, so its gotta be love who's moved. if that's the case, we're out of the loop. we get none of them.

 

I hope this isnt the case. Phoenix would stall their rebuild by a couole years. They would not attract a 2nd star and might not eveb make the playoffs. Why give up assets if you are phoenix? They should be asset collecting

 

Well then if you know it, then what's the point?

And btw I don't care what Cod says, until I see it I don't believe that the Cavs are trading Love to get Melo.
Trading him for some other pieces? Possibly. Like for example Avery Bradley. Not to appease Melo.
Anyway the Rockets are not getting Love whether the Cavs decide to trade him or not.

 

So I guess something like this based on the rumors:

• Pistons get Anderson, Uthoff and 2x2nd rounders (via Hou + NY) for Harris and Mook (feel like they're getting screwed still but they are shaving salary 2017-2018 salary too).
• Knicks get Tobias Harris and expiring/NG contracts for Carmelo and a 2nd.
• Cleveland gets Carmelo for Love.
• We get Love and Mook for Anderson, 2nd rounder and all our NG's.

We also pick up, I believe, the record for number of players traded in a season lol. I don't know if this is realistic, but this is what I'm understanding from Codman and the general rumors.

 

Sorry for the multiple posts but YES.
Phoenix would do it in a second. Their owner is impatient and the chair of the GM is creaking. As long as said assets aren't top 10 picks or premium.
They might trade Love for say Bender, Warren and the 2018 Miami pick.

Unfortunately this is why most franchise can't win anything. The fish smells from the head. Bad owners always have losing franchises except if they have a GOAT caliber player like Lebron or Jordan.

 

Honestly, I don't want a backcourt Irving/Harden ... the offense would be sick, but defense is going to be hard to watch those two.

 

But - - if GH goes to C's look for a possible 3-way trade with the two least LEasts sending Love for Melo brokered by Ainge; interesting possibility (even as it shuts out Rox).

 

Rockets Roster
PG:Chris Paul/Isaiah Taylor
SG:James Harden/Eric Gordon/
SF:Trevor Ariza/PJ Tucker/Troy Williams/Jarrod Uthoff
PF:Carmelo Anthony/Michael Beasley/Zhou Qi/I.Hartenstein
C:Clint Capela/Nene Hilario/C.Onuaku

 

they should, but they were going after Blake and Millsap in FA...they went after LMA in 2015 FA

they haven't made the playoffs since 2010...sometimes an owner just says enough is enough and gets tired of being a bottom dweller

 

well then its melo or bust this summer. as it is i think we have a chance to win 60 games. we'll have to see if the rockets can beat out the cavs package.