I haven't been a fan of ryan, but absolutely love Ryan the guy. It bothers me a little the hatred some posters display towards this guy as if he personally soiled their house or something. Yeah the contract isn't great, he disappointed me. But he's been a professional and has slotted into the actual team flawlessly.
this is who i brought up last summer and at several points during the season. for the freakin minimum we could have had nearly the production of ryno. of course speights is probably not a starter for us, but at the same time we would have had $15M+ to bring in another piece. speights also had championship experience and had stepped up numerous times in the playoffs, while anderson has shown to be a shriveling choker :X
I know but he is a pro baller. And he is paid very well these days.....I feel bad for his former fiance and his situation but this is the player Ryan we are talking about.
Tough crowd, these Rockets fans. After all these years, we finally have our own Mehmet freakin' Okur, and people are still pissed. But this thread also begs the question. If Ryno was so helpful, what are we doing pining after Mello?
in the market today, crazy numbers like that will be thrown around. Green signed his contract a year before the salaries jumped last season.......don't focus so much on how much a player earns because everyone gets paid lots. They left Anderson open because Harden worked hard to get him open by driving and dishing
I really Speights too. He played really well in the game I watched live last year. Kept hitting 3-pointers.
The problem with Ryno is that he is more valuable to the Rox than almoat any other team out there. That and other GMs know that moving him is mist for getting that third star so there is that leverage. The 20mil per year is not bad. 3 more years guaranteed makes the maket limited.
Both of these things can be true: 1) We were right to sign Ryan Anderson 2) His contract is currently an impediment towards upgrading our roster I'm not big on going back in time to look at what we could have done differently and how everything would have played had we acted differently so I'm not gonna pretend to know if we could have got him for less or got someone else who would have helped us similarly for cheaper. BUT... I think there were more than a few of us who thought his contract was bad at the time it was signed. We talked ourselves into believing it was ok because if we looked at EG and RA as package deal, then the total dollars per year for those two wasn't so bad. But there was never a time where Anderson's contract alone looked good. Regardlss there's nothing we can do now about last season's FA signings. RA appears to be unmovable right now and I worry that he might remain unmovable for this year. If that's the case then we just need to fill out the roster with some versatile forwards who can play the heavy minutes when we get to the playoffs since Anderson is unplayable in the playoffs. We might also need to use those versatile forwards at home games because that infamous Toyota Center depth perception just throws him off.
I think a lot of people are taking what it means to not be able to dump Anderson's contract a step too far. The Rockets were trying to dump $19MM in cap space. That's not easy to do because only so many teams can absorb that contract. Now they are trying to trade it for Melo but the Knicks have no real need for Anderson. Their best player plays the 4 and they are likely going in a younger direction. The Rockets could probably find somebody that wanted Anderson if they weren't constrained by dumping the salary or finding pieces the Knicks want. A player for player trade could likely still be done. But it's not likely that the Rockets are just trying to get rid of Ryno. He fits the system and helps the team. But he's expendable for the right player.
im a big hater but i dont wanna trade him for trash. he's still a seasoned stretch 4 and a specilast at what he does andhas been one of the best stretch 4s for awhile. the knicks should be all over this guy. this or next year they can have a starting lineup with all 3pt shooters. i guess teams wanna wait til he has 2 years left. i want him gone, but have to get something decent in return at the very least. dont trade him for 2nd rounders and some bogus 1m tpe or w/e. i'd bet there will be takers eventually.
I haven't read the rest of the thread so I'm sure it's been mentioned ad nauseum, but if you slip Dekker into that 4 spot or if you picked up somebody cheaper in FA (I don't recall there being many dead-eye PF shooters available...), you're not a 55 win team, you do go to the 2nd RD, and you're not an enticing FA destination in 2017. It's that simple. CP3 came here to play with Harden, sure, but would he have done so if Houston just finished a 46-36 mediocre season and seem to be multiple pieces away from competing at a high level? We were able to sell CP3 on already being a Top 3 team - he can get us over the hump to being a true GSW competitor. Is his contract fantastic? No. Is it the worst in the league? Definitely not. He adds tremendous value to our team and isn't just some throw away piece.
great thread, great thought-provoking post OP. sometimes it's just great to wake up to cf in the morning. thanks everyone.
sorry but what you expect Morey to say? Every GM would say good things about his players and try to justify his decisions. You expected him to say "oh that was a bad contract that now we can't get rid of and it held us back in further improvement of the roster?"
didn't harden sign his extension after gordon and anderson were signed? i'm pretty sure harden wanted anderson and gordon, and morey had to keep him happy.
