That's the point of his post though. We signed Anderson because we weren't just going to leave 18 mil of blank space on the team. That sends a terrible losing message to harden who would probably want to move to la like paul george if we don't try to win. So the only alternatives are what @Kim linked in his OP. out of those guys who woulda been a better use of the 18 mil?
Couldn't be any worse than where we are now. Nevertheless, fair point. But I would have balked at that contract for Williams just as the Ryan one. It comes down to the ugly contract that Anderson was given. Morey had always been in love with Anderson and gave him superstar contract but then realized his mistake just a year later. He should have given Ryan a cheaper contract and if he wasn't coming on board then should have spent that cap space on multiple cheaper players which would be easier to offload. Did we have to spend all that on one player?? I am not a cap expert but I am assuming we could have spent that money on multiple players?
it takes 2 to tengo. What trades do you think were possible? you tell me. and how do we just add 18 million through trade at the time? Morey has said in interviews that he had to spend because he had no good draft picks or trade assets. According to him this was the best way to improve the team. Now here we are with cp3 and a good culture/program after getting the 3rd beat record in the nba. Im not saying that morey/les are infallible or the anderson signing was amazing but I dont think that you have a realistic and superior plan than his. keep in mind another team other than the rockets also has to agree to said trade
great signing....stop worrying about the money, every NBA player is overpaid and because of the new CBA, the money numbers are going to be crazy big. Anderson's raw numbers don't show how much he helps Harden out by spreading the floor and just being someone you can't leave open.
This is a good point. The Rockets added Ryan Anderson for nothing because they had $18M in cap space. They did strike out on Durant and Horford, and that makes sense because they were 41-41 and Durant went championship hunting with GS and Horford stayed East with Boston and their boatload of assets. Was Melo worth less last off-season? We could have traded 3 first rounders for him then? I mean, it seems like the asking price from NY now is somewhere in the Ryno + 1 to 3 first rounders for Melo, and the Rockets are only offering Ryno + 2nder rounders? (This is just pure speculation based on stuff I read here). It's just frustrating when people criticize without having an legit alternative plan.
They are 29 teams that can have RA for free And No One wants him Even Morey recognized today that he paid to much off course he help last years he is not a bad player but he is totally overpaid for 3 more years how many opportunities have or will be lost because this contract??
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2...where-players-are-going-whos-still-available/ Be constructive with your criticism please. What was your plan last off-season? How would it have helped/hurt the Rockets. You're also ignoring the big point that Ryno helped the team win and CP3 joined the Rockets in big part due to them being good this season. And what opportunity are you speaking of? Right now, it's Melo all the way. And while I think Melo helps more, it's not like Melo is a sure shot 100% winning plan. Instead of saying lost opportunities with Ryno, who would you have spent the $18M on who is much higher today in terms of value than Ryno. It's a list of scrubs. It was Durant, Horford, then scrubs.
Ok ok, so is it fine if I thank Anderson for his contribution last year? Disregarding the playoffs, Anderson was a baller after the all star break. He DID provide the spacing the Rox needed, and he did contribute in Rocket wins. But that is all sunk cost, for good or bad overpaid or underaporeciated last season is over. The current situation is the Rox are trying to dump him, they think they would be better off without him and unfortunately the rest of the league thinks he is overpaid and doesn't want to touch his contract. So his current team doesn't want him and the rest of the league don't want him, what does that tell you about Anderson's contract? Also just because I am hard on Anderson doesn't mean I think he is the worst. My opinion but he is better to have on the team than Melo at his contract or LMA at his contract or Millsap at 30M. However I look at gsw and they don't have these mediocre contracts on their team, all their money is tied up to Grade A players on good deals. We ain't beating them at this rate.
Yeah ok Rox stop worrying about paying Anderson 18M while Draymond Green abuses him everytime while making a lower salary. Also Anderson is someone you CAN leave open thats what Spurs did.
I agree and disagree with this. And the Rockets are trying to trade him for Melo. For many teams, Ryno has negative value, and I'm sure for some he has positive value. But with salary growth outpacing cap growth, cap space is becoming a premium. If the NBA was correct in its projections, then Ryno's contract would be more valuable, but alas, the cap went down this year after jumping like crazy last year. It was supposed to jump again and every team was caught off guard. The Rockets are trying to make the best of it. And I don't think Ryno needs appreciation - I just wanted to know who all the criticizers wanted instead of Ryno last off-season for $18M. Rockets struck out on the big dogs and made the best of what was left imo. Anyhow, if you really think Melo is a worse fit, then you should be happy that NY doesn't want the Ryno Melo swap, because the Rockets do by all reports. GSW doesn't have mediocre contracts because their best players are on rookie deals + Durant. They're heading towards a giant payroll bomb in the near future. If they keep their core, they're going to break luxury tax records, and the owner might be okay with that. Anyhow, what did GS do last season with they're cap space? They got Durant, because they were already great and Durant wanted rings. They got good because they drafted Curry, Thompson, and Green. But don't act like they didn't have huge bloated contracts before that (see David Lee and Bogut). Lee and Bogut didn't hinder GS because Curry/Thompson/Green made up for everything that the rest of the team lacked.
Maybe waiting was the best choise and keep your options open, make trades Teams wants sometimes unload contracts With cap space Moerey got Teery + pics and make WCF the same year (also was competitive) or sing a short contarct, this uear the FA was better last year, I agree with you, there were not many good options Boban Marjanovic was a good one Joe Johnson Tyler Johnson (was restricted)
Ryan Anderson is a good player with a great skill. The problem is we are trying to trade him for Carmelo freaking Anthony. He has a career Avg of 24 points a game, if Morey pulls this off with Ryno, he'll be the GM of the century. Say what you want about him, but Carmelo is one of the best scorers in NBA history and is pretty clutch. I could go into more detail, but I think the point is made.
Could've had Mo Speights for the minimum. He had an identical three point percentage as Eric Gordon on similar attempts per minute. He's a good rebounder: 10.4 per 36 minutes vs Anderson's 5.6. He can also attack the basket more and provides slightly better rim protection. Regarding perimeter defense, he's actually as helpless as Anderson so that's a wash. I still want him on the team. I didn't like the Anderson signing at the time because of his defensive issues. Last season actually made me appreciate him more, surprisingly. He was utilized perfectly in our three point-happy system. Even if his shot is off, opposing bigs have to guard him out to the line. Beyond even, as he takes many shots several feet behind the line. It helped free up space for Harden's drives and was valuable for our offense regardless of his actual percentage. His contract is painful, but I think he'll flourish next to Harden and CP3 and am okay with him being on the roster to start the season. His lack of playmaking ability will hurt less now that we have two world class creators. We still need to upgrade him, so hopefully he plays well and boosts his value. Also, at the trade deadline I think teams will consider the two years remaining on his deal better than a full three years. Who knows what will open up and which players will be available?
I like Mo Speights too. He's looking for $8M plus this year and only wanted a 1 year deal last year after not cashing in on a big deal. If Rockets SnT for PJ, would Mo Speights be an MLE target? He is so damn plodding on offense though. But he's a big dude with a goofy smile who can shoot and rebound well enough. http://www.latimes.com/sports/clippers/la-sp-clippers-speights-20170523-story.html
I think the jury is still out on Ryno. He had some good stretches and some bad ones. Big letdown in the playoffs. Still can't believe he shot that bad AT HOME in the playoffs. He did stretch defenses and create more driving lanes with the threat of him shooting the 3. I'm hoping he can get more comfortable in the system and be more consistent with his shot. If he holds his release he would shoot better. I hated when he would rush his shot for no reason. The defense and rebounding just won't get better so hopefully his shot will to make up the difference. PJ can play D on the good PFs. If we can't find another PF I'm ok with giving Ryno another year to earn that $20 mil...
Like they say about him, "Mo gets buckets". Would be a good vet pickup on a cheap deal. Would fit our system perfectly.
