[Woj] Carmelo Anthony open to waiving no-trade clause for Rockets or Cavaliers

- Most of your argument is redundant as you have not refuted my original statement at all. I said that there's more to the basketball than just scoring, which implies that simply being an elite scorer is not good enough to net you an overall elite status. You also did not prove that specializing in just scoring is more important than say, possessing all-around talent. Maybe individually scoring might be the most important area (although debatable), but all-around player with 80 rating in passing, rebounding, steals, blocks, and defense will easily beat out a 90 rated scorer who sucks at everything else. Among those two, who is more of an elite player? I say the former. That's the gist of my argument.

- Beasely's NBA career is a failure by all accounts. To suggest otherwise is nonsensical.

- Melo is NOT a superstar. Never made All-nba first team, never was considered a serious MVP candidate, did not even lead his team in Win Shares during his prime (because Melo did not contribute in any way outside of scoring), only advanced beyond 1st round of the playoffs twice during his 14 year career. This is not the résumé of a superstar.

 

Correct. That was my issue with it. If there's a problem in getting Tucker the minutes he desires, I don't see swapping Ryno/Melo being a major factor in it.

 

link?

 

Just said it on Zach Lowe's podcast. Brought it up in the context of what it might cost Denver to move Faried.

If Anderson is unmovable then I guess we could just throw our NGs at Denver for Faried?

 

Full context:
Marks talked to 2 teams that are looking for 2 firsts for Anderson. Does not mean all teams are.

 

I mean no one is suggesting he's talked specifically about this with 29 other teams, but to invent a fake "context" and dismiss what he said is foolish imo.

 

Everything you say here I agree with. I have been extremely vocal against any other time that someone mentioned it or if we tried to go after him.

This time, however, I feel different.

Melo is mostly an inefficient, ball stopping chucker who doesn't make his team mates better.

The Rockets, however, are still a good several steps behind the Warriors. Even with CP3.

If we were able to get Melo, and if he was able to become more motivated playing with Harden and CP3, and if he was able to be an instant offense guy to open up the floor more for CP3 and Harden, and if he was ok with being the third option, and if he was played more in the infamous "Olympic Melo" that everyone likes to talk about so much, and if he puts up at least some effort on defense (can't be worse than Anderson)- then there is a chance that he could work great and could make this Rockets offense one of the greatest offenses in NBA history. No exaggeration. It would have the potential to be far more deadly than GSW's offense- with two players that can score and distribute at an elite level.

Those are lots of if's. And there is just as much of a chance that it would blow up, that Melo wouldn't be happy playing behind Harden and CP3, that he would stop the efficiency of the offense with his ball-stopping tendencies. That very well could happen.

But we only have so long with Harden's prime. CP3 might walk in a year. It would be a huge risk to bring Melo in. I don't think anyone is denying that. But if we don't take risks we won't beat GSW.

For the first time ever, if we are able to reasonably get Melo then I say go for it.

 

Uptehdates?

 

- I am directly refuting this, not my fault you didn't understand. Let's take Rudy Gay and Ariza for example. Ariza is superior to Gay in all areas outside of scoring, yet Gay consistently gets the higher contract. Why is that? Because scoring. Same can be said to a lesser degree about Curry and Bev. Statistically, Bev is comparable passer if we are going by TOV% and definitely a better rebounder and defender. However, Curry can get the max from any team, while Bev will struggle to get more than 10M. Why is that? Because scoring. How about Norwitzki prime vs Millsap prime? Again, the superior scorer comes up on top again and again even if he does nothing else nearly as well.

- You and I have different expectations of failed NBA career. Did Beasley live up to his lofty rookie expectations? No. Was his career a failure? Also no. A failure is like T-Will. Beasley is still a productive NBA player in the sense that teams are interested and would be willing to sign him, good teams like Warrior for instance.

- Superstar is purely a matter of perception. The fact is, in his prime, any team looking for a superstar to sign would all get in line and offer him the max. You can argue that he is overrated (which I agree), but the fact is, any team looking for a star would gladly give him the max.

 

Also consider ... It's what they are "looking for". Of course they will tell a reporter a ridiculous ask, why kill their negotiations before they start?

I hope we can hold out with a couple of 2nd's, but at this point i'd be fine using one 1st to dump Anderson if we have Melo coming back our way.

 

I have no problem with acquiring Melo at this point, especially if that means we could somehow get rid of Ryno's toxic contract. But Melo was never a true superstar in my opinion, and much less so now at his current age. He's still good for a 3rd option on a championship contending team, and that's all I ask of him.

 

Are the teams aware that the Rockets don't have draft picks till skynet sends the Terminator to kill Sarah Connor?

 

Anderson was not good last year, but teams like Memphis who have trouble getting FA to visit will take him. This is the same team that offered Parsons the max coming off injury. With Zbo probably leaving they need PFs. just look at the offers lesser players got last year. i.e. Bazemore, Crabbe, Dudley

 

Why can't we attach Llull to Anderson?

 

- Again, you did not address my original statement. I DID NOT say that scoring is not the most important skill set in NBA, what I said was specializing in scoring alone is not good enough to catapult you to the elite status. Understand the distinction.

- Yes, Beasley is a failure of a player, yet he's a pretty good scorer. No argument there.

- No, Melo does not have the track record of a superstar. Hence, he is not one.

 

I didn't "invent a fake context"..

I listened to the podcast and clarified what he said.

 

so the price of getting rid of Anderson is more expensive than acquiring Paul George? Damn.

 

Well then.

All I can say is my bad. That's what I get for doing things while listening to the podcast.

Thanks for correcting me. I'll edit my post.

 

I just proved that anyone can be an insider around here if you have the proper sauce.

#Day2

 

It will probably be a waiting game until those type of team's demands go down. All of us getting super impatient with this is the wrong mentality for minimizing potential value loss.