We tried to trade Ryan Anderson for Carmelo Anthony,

DeAleck?

 

Looks someone is happy to be rejected.

 

Let him be, he is very entertaining. He should stay.

 

I guess the fact that he single-handedly took Syracuse to a national title in his freshman year and was named the tournament's outstanding player doesn't factor in? Hell, even Durant couldn't pull off that feat in his one college year. I remember watching that final game and being blown away by Carmelo.

Don't underestimate Melo. His time on the Knicks doesn't count because the Knicks suck so hard.

 

and as someone who has seen Melo play in person, one of the things you don't realize from just watching tv broadcasts is how much he hustles. If he were on a real team, I think you'd see something that would amaze you. It's partly his misfortune to have been stuck with such a **** show for the past umpteen years.

 

Melo wanted nothing but to play for New York but he gets a pass for playing for a "historically bad organization"? Makes sense.

 

Not so much of a pass as contextualizing the situation.

It's hard to be successful gen your front office is as incompetent as the Knicks.

Imagine if Le$ was playing karaoke at a dive bar in Dallas during the draft. People would freak out, and appropriately so.

 

He made a decision to stay in NY to be close to his family. It was a bad basketball decision, but as a man I get it. However, you can't look at his skillset and tell me with a straight face he can't play a major role on championship team. He's too talented

 

Well Knicks wouldn't be so bad if he didn't demand a sign and trade which left the Knicks with 0 assets just so he can get his super max. Then he had a chance to go to a contender but again he stayed in NYC to get his max.

So what if he hustles on the court? Hustling is easy, Melo is one of the most gifted athletes in the world why can't he hustle if he wants to? The real test if he wants to win is what he does off the court, Melo has not improved or added any significant skill since his rookie days, there are no stories of Melo working out in the offseason in fact you look at him and he isn't even ripped or in amazing bball shape he doesn't even work out a lot to keep in shape like past athletes like Iverson who hated to practice.

So no its not misfortune, going to the Knicks and slacking off were his choices

 

He could have just signed in FA and allowed Knicks to keep their young guys, thats what Dwight did. What does being a man have to do with it he just wanted the max $$$ even if it cost him a competitive team. Nothing wrong with that but he can't sit on his high horse afterwards either.

 

no, I get that. but I think he was younger and immature earlier in his career, and perhaps he thought team success would come more easily than it did. Now he is on the edge of the twilight of his career, and I really think his motivation is different. I don't think someone in his position (and anyone with any kind of ego at all) wants to stand at the end of a career and be known primarily as a loser. So I think we'd see quite a different Melo if his situation were to change. That's all.

 

would you trade Melo for Ryan freaking Anderson? Would you take on Ryan Anderson's $20 mil per for the next 3 years without significant compensation?

NO. hell no.

i'm starting to think we are all suffering from some sort of mass psychosis. The Knicks don't have to trade Melo right now; they can wait. They don't have to settle for our crap offer

 

You're talking about Melo's contract decisions. I'm talking about Melo's play on the court, which is elite. Personally I don't care about why he chose to stay in NY. It was the wrong move basketball wise. Ppl calling him a "loser" because NY sucks, as if it's his play thats holding them back. NY sucked before Melo & will suck after. Carmelo is still a ELITE talent that any NBA team should welcome

 

Dear God Cletus, do you even understand what a Salary Cap is?

 

Knick might take this trade because . . Anderson has no trade kicker .. . .
He might actually be EASIER to trade than Melo for that particular team

Rocket River

 

I'm glad to see that a lot of people including me are on this Carmelo hype train. My friends think that Blake Griffin, for whatever reason, is a better fit for this Rockets team. Why, I dunno.

 

If you're paying a player you don't want $27 million for the next two, I don't see why not.

 

People are calling him a loser because he his one.

Elite talent? Sure. Loser? Most definitely.

 

He made the Knicks suck, didn't you get that part? Maybe you forgot but the Knicks had some good players like Gallinari and Wilson Chandler, if Melo had signed a free agent contract then they would all play together and Knicks wouldn't suck. It's not like the Knicks suck automatically there is a cause and effect that results in them sucking.

In what way is Melo an "elite" talent that any NBA team should welcome? He isn't elite at any category anymore, his scoring is not elite, his defense and rebounding and playmaking isn't elite. None of his numbers are in "elite" category anymore so how do you define him as elite? If he came for minimum then yes he would be elite considering his low salary his talent level is elite among minimum players. But if he came with original salary then no he is not an elite player by any means.

 

It's interesting that Anderson has the highest net on/off +/- on the team.

http://www.82games.com/1617/1617HOU.HTM

Are we underrating his gravity? Would it be the worst thing if he was starting at PF next year?