[Woj] Carmelo Anthony open to waiving no-trade clause for Rockets or Cavaliers

Well.... Harden is not a poor defender "when he is engaged", which is the part you left off.
It's always a gamble whether he'll be all-in for a game or totally indifferent.

 

Harden is good one on one defender, especially against bigger guys, but he is terrible team defender, one of the worst in the league, when you need him to move a lot, switch, read and react, help, rotate, cover the possible trajectories etc, because it takes discipline, heart, stamina, ability and will.

He sucks badly at those. With the way the game is played nowadays, he is **** overall

 

If you think about it, was Melo an elite player even during his absolute prime? The guy never made 1st team All-nba and was never considered a serious MVP candidate. Harden already has three 1st team All-nba selections and two MVP-runner ups, and he's not even 30 yet.

Maybe I can concede that Melo was 'elite' during his prime, although even that's not very clear. But as of now, coming off of one of his worst seasons last year, the answer is no.

 

Or sometimes you just need a little help. It's very hard to win by yourself in this league. It's always been that way. I think it's fair to assume everyone can agree Kobe was an elite player. He couldn't win consistently by himself for the few seasons after Shaq left. Gasol in Memphis had a hard time winning by himself on a regular basis but he was an elite talent.

You combine those two and the former number 2 guy Odom becomes 3rd option and they make 3 finals appearances in a row and win 2 in a row.

You get Melo out of NY and put him next to Harden and CP3 and he's gonna look like a new guy.

 

I think your being revisionist. Melo was top 10 in MVP voting every year he was in Denver, IIRC? An elite feat in itself imo

 

sure you need help but at some point if its just losing ways after losing ways you realize that player just isn't good enough to elevate the overall game positively. Melo at this stage is that. nobody is saying you have to win a ship by yourself to prove you're an elite player. if you can't even get your team to .500 or even close to it its especially year after year after year something is off with your best player. Not to mention this guy is in the extremely weak East. they are the ones that have the most impact on winning or losing not the role players you surround them with. those are just compliments. Kobe and Gasol have been impacting the game by having winning seasons and playoffs berths just fine. They've proved they are + players on a team of their own. those examples aren't comparable.

I'm not denying that melo next to our two stars is bad. In fact I want that to happen. Bc I think its a good role for him to support those two. But it just further proves hes not elite. As a complimentary option, I absolutely think he can still be pretty good in the right role

 

MVP Award Shares

2003-04 NBA 0.001 (14)
2006-07 NBA 0.001 (15)
2007-08 NBA 0.002 (13)
2009-10 NBA 0.053 (6)
2012-13 NBA 0.393 (3)
2013-14 NBA 0.003 (15)

No Melo finished top 10 in MVP voting only twice, and top 5 only once in his career.

Even in 2012-13, Melo received 1 first place vote for MVP, so he was not a serious candidate (LeBron & Durant was)

 

http://m.chron.com/sports/rockets/a...or-Rockets-11262886.php?cmpid=twitter-desktop

If they were to add Anthony, the Rockets would, however, seek to play him as a power forward, with Trevor Ariza and new addition P.J. Tuckerat small forward. The Rockets have not seemed optimistic about a deal for Anthony with the prospect of Tucker playing at both forward spots a large part of their conversations before agreeing to a three-year, $34 million deal.

Anthony, a 10-time All-Star, has reportedly grown more interested in joining the Rockets since the trade for his longtime friend, Chris Paul, last week.

 

You a plebeian

 

What you're describing is actually Harden. He has NEVER finished outside top 10 in MVP voting since he joined Houston.

MVP Award Shares

2012-13 NBA 0.027 (8)
2013-14 NBA 0.068 (5)
2014-15 NBA 0.720 (2)
2015-16 NBA 0.007 (9)
2016-17 NBA 0.746 (2)

 

I'd much rather have Kevin Love than Anderson. Love rebounds, shoots the three, and gets the ball out to the fast break.

Whether Melo or Love, as long as we have a center rotation when the dust settles.

 

Yeah, i'm not a fan of Melo, but swapping Anderson for him would be an obvious upgrade.

Just don't move other players, give them a 2nd rounder and fillers. I don't want to lose Gordon or Capela, Ariza too tbh...

 

Do y'all think if melo came we have a real chance of signing LeBron next year?

 

Melo itself is a cancer and disgraceful person and teammate.

The way he handled the Knicks situation was a final nail in his coffin.

Dude essentially told Knicks executives that he won't get rid off his no-trade clause, because it's important to him to stay as close as he possibly could to his son after he cheated on his wife and his marriage ran off the cliff, but couple of days afterall the dude came to the Knicks office and asked them to buy him out, so he can play for the contender with his bro Bron or bro CP3, while Knicks would still be paying him for the next two years, showing them, that he didn't give a **** about staying as close as possible to his 10 years kid, according to Love and Shelburne later podcast.

Melo is a diva and he sucks badly now, but because of CP3 person, who could essentially bust his ass, he may turn into a Team USA Melo here, because of Harden playmaking and attention. that defense is paying to him, too.

So it's definitely an asset and a big-time addition, but only in Anderson's place.

 

Is this supposed to be a compliment? Lol

 

I wouldn't argue that he's a much better man defender than he is a team defender. Not consistent making his rotations, for example, and sometimes you wonder if he even thought about making a switch, but he's far from the worst around in that department, in my opinion. I think some of that is having too many damn responsibilities. Easily the team's main scoring option, and at times while he's been in Houston, pretty much our only really good option. Point guard, whether he was officially the one or not. Double, triple teamed on offense. The guy never wanted to admit it, and he should be admired for that, but he got worn down playing the minutes he was playing, with the load he had to carry. In the playoffs, that just multiplied, with defenses really keying on him, defenses that weren't chopped liver. With CP3 on board, I see a lot of that changing, with James, like Ariza with the arrival of Tucker, playing fewer minutes and having those responsibilities reduced. We'll see.

 

His numbers suggest he's elite. But again we're skipping over the fact that he was playing in Denver, who's historically been between mediocre & sucking. The best player he played with was a over the hill Allen Iverson. Melo in a good organization, good system w/ a great supporting cast is nothing we've seen thus far. He will get the best looks he's ever got playing next to Harden & CP3

 

Yeah, sounds like a chumpliment with the ESPN reference.

j.R. deserves better.

 

So because he's not waiving his NTC THAT THE ORGINIZATION SIGNED HIM TO he's A DIVA, and a disvraceful person lol. Funny as hell