The problem isn't so much the wrestling tweet itself...in a vacuum it's not a big deal, just a poor and lame attempt at humor. My reaction to it was largely one of indifference mixed with some "". The problem is who's creating that tweet. I mean, I'm not a big fan of CNN and some other media outlets...I think 24-hour cable news, maybe somewhat out of business necessity, is more "theater" and less "genuine news and journalism". But Trump, thanks to his record-breaking ego, narcissism and attention-whorism...is obsessed with the media. So much so that it's distracting from whatever agenda and roadmap that the GOP and perhaps even some members of his own damn Cabinet have. And Trump's not going to change...he's a "showman", this is who he is, and unfortunately this is precisely what his TRUE supporters (the people who supported him from Day 1 of his candidacy, over other Republican candidates) wanted. If Trump were 40 years old today instead of 71, his behavior as POTUS would be very similar to what we're seeing today. Perhaps a bit more focused and less rambling, but that's about it. He's been dead-set in his ways for several decades. The guy cares about himself, money and fame. That's it. I think a growing number of normal sensible people, especially the apolitical...are just sick and tired of it all, and therefore are trying to tune it out as much as possible. They're sick of Trump, his ridiculous bombastic tweets, his staff (Kellyanne Conway, Spicer, etc.), his family (except Barron and maybe Tiffany), Congress, CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, the #Resist movement, BLM, Kaepernick, hearing about politics during sports broadcasts, and so on. It's just all too in-your-face most of the time. They miss the presidents who largely stayed out of the spotlight and just did their jobs.
They are similar in that Trump was not actually threatening to use a wrestling move on CNN reporters, and Kathy Griffin was not actually threatening to behead Trump. I suppose one could argue that the imagery used by Griffin makes it a worse offense. One could also argue that a sitting president engaging in something like this versus a comedian who's job is to be provocative is also an important distinction that makes what Trump did worse. Whatever. We'd all be better off paying less attention to Trump's sophomoric twitter ramblings.
But will you admit that the actions of Kathy Griffin were also not a threat? If I comb the DD for posts from you about Kathy Griffin/Ceasar, am I going to find your outrage over her actions resembling a threat from the left? And if you are not a hypocrite and also thought that was a joke will you call out the hypocrites on the right who are doing that now as we speak? Your right that there is no need for crying. There is a need for honesty and truth instead of partisan hypocrisy.
I agree with everything in this post The 24 hour news cycle has outlived its purpose Trump isn't going to change People should just ignore it because its more silly than anything else I mean the entire panel on ABC this morning trying to make it out to be threatening was ridiculous
As far as Trumps battle with the media, I agree he should be more presidential Ignoring that simple fact, after being accused of rape in the middle of the campaign, and being accused of cheating with the Russians, this stuff is tame Joe Scarborough is a tool, and the way Mika dramatized being insulted by the President and the CNN lady's reaction (sorry really don't know her name) is ridiculous The crying is totally uncalled for.
So now that you are finally seeing the perspective of Trump that many of us so called "Trump supporters" see, do we get an apology? This is what some of us have figured out a long time ago and this is why we dont blindly rage about the dumb things Trump says. There is no master plan outside of the continuous distraction and chaos. This is a complete mockery and disrespect to the office he holds. Falling into the outrage is a very dangerous thing when it comes to someone like Trump.
Heck no you guys don't get an apology. You knew who he was (frankly I think most did but some thought he'd change which was dumb), and you helped put him in office anyways because apparently the country was soooo bad and your lives are so unsatisfying that it's actually better to opt for all out chaos instead of fixing a problem the correct way. It would be like if your car didn't start cause you have a bad alternator, and you opted for putting dynamite in the gas tank. That's what the so-called free market Libertarians thought of Trump. A Bafoon who would blow the whole thing up so we could start from scratch. Then there are the so-called Christians... who helped put him in office by turning a blind eye for the hope that he will shut down planned parenthood and outlaw homosexuality. The Bible says explicitly that the #1 responsibility of Christian's is to minister and spread the word of God. How's that Christian brand looking to non believers who now see Trump as the leader of the modern day Christian? Honestly, as a Christian myself, nothing disgusts me more than what has become of my religion and the leaders in the religion selling their souls for Trump. And to the notion of "forget his antics, and just watch what his office does"... frankly that has been just as bad as his tweets and it gets 5% of the coverage or gets covered for a cycle and then it's back to the Trump tweets. What the GOP is using him for is essentially furthering the divide between the rich and the poor, and if you support Trump because he's a vehicle for the GOP to double down on Trickle down economics with tax cuts to the rich, then that's just as bad. So no Space.... you don't get an apology from me because you've been saying all along that his antics are a joke.
I didn't vote for Clinton nor would I vote for her today if we had a do over. I didn't vote for Trump nor would I vote for him today if we had a do over. If you think I share responsibility because I refuse to vote for Clinton, then take your bitterness up with your party's leaders. I will not vote for the lesser of two evils especially when they are both awful candidates. What does Christianity have to do with Trump? You're quick to say not all Muslims are extremists but you immediately want lump every Christian in the same boat. If you're a self professed Christian, then you would know the Christian belief has one of the biggest gulf of differences of any religion. Further, planned parenthood/abortion is about the debate of life, not religious beliefs. Isn't it convenient how every discussion is neatly divided down the partisan lines? Here is a news flash; It isn't. Our politicians and media want to make it seem so.
I've followed your posts long enough to know where you stand. Your about as objective as Matt Bullard calling Rockets games. While I don't know for sure which name you marked on your ballet, I know the fundamentals of what you support align with Trump on almost every post so not sure who you are trying to argue here. You support Trump either actively or passively. Everyone here knows it and it's pretty damn obvious. I see you are trying to make it seem as if I'm splitting playing partisan lines and maybe I did lump you in the "Trump fan" carriage but it's not without month of posts that sure do paint a parallel line alongside the Trump agenda. Christianity has a lot to do with it... It meaning Trumps behaviors. Supporting or turning a blind eye to his behaviors. More than 80% of evangelical Christian's voted for him and the top Christian leaders in the US (Dobson, Robertson etc) are his biggest public supporters. They tell Christian's that his bahaviors are still acceptable because he is a "baby Christian". They are pretty damn powerful among guiding the support of Trump supporters in the suburbs which won him the election as much as rural America did. Just look at how Ossoff did in GA6 which is certainly a Pat Robertson type of district. As leaders of a "moral" standard the continue support or lack of condemnation of his behaviors is stark and telling. And I'm not needing to "lump Christian's into a boat"... I'm going by the evidence of 80% of Evangelical Christian's who actually did vote for him and who refuse to take a public stance against his actions since he now represents Christian's when he is speaking at Christian events.
Yeah, and he said this several years earlier: "Were it left to me to decide whether we should have a government without newspapers, or newspapers without a government, I should not hesitate a moment to prefer the latter." But that is typical of Trump's low-hanging fruit audience; cherry-picking at every conceivable opportunity- and then blowing off legit complaints as sour grapes because "you lost the election." And they're all fooled by Trump's sublime manipulation. Completely bananas- but that's America 2017.
all this stupidity is a distraction from real issues and if i didnt think trump was such a reactionary, impulsive dumbass man-baby i would think that he was doing it on purpose so that we arent talking about things that actually matter. the very people who spent 8 years complaining, criticizing and picking apart every single thing obama did or said are now the ones whining the most about the media and their coverage of trump. obama got so much crap for 8 years, some of it fair and some not, but i dont remember him or any other politician acting like trump does. most ignore it and just do their f***ing job. trump himself was the leader of the birther movement and now he complains about unfair treatment and "fake news". trump is the one insulting everyone, constantly lying and acting like a jackass, but everyone else is unfairly picking on him...at what point do his supporters ask themselves if its ALL these other people that have the problem or perhaps is it trump. he has been like this his whole life...he thrives on conflict and drama...but again, his supporters want to blame everyone else. it makes no sense. trump demonizes the "lying" "fake" media, calls them names and tells supporters at his rallies how evil and despicable they are. he stirs them up to the point that members of the media have to have the police escort them to their vehicles...yet he says the media is only going after him out of hatred. and who are the snowflakes again? when bush was president we were told to "shut up". we were not allowed to criticize the president because it was unpatriotic and it would embolden the terrorists. then obama was president and these same people spent the entire time going after him. on day one they stated that their objective was to prevent obama from getting his agenda through. and now that we are back to a (white) republican we are once again not allowed to criticize the president.
If the truth is suspicious coming from the vehicle of the media what does it tell you about how people feel about the "truths" coming from the White House?
Liberals still refuse to criticize a news network who blatantly admitted to covering a false story for ratings.
Trump's supporters are trapped. They know what a complete moron he is (if it were anyone else, they'd act the way normal people do and call him out on his idiocy), yet they can't admit it b/c if they do, it reflects on them, and they can't handle that. So, instead, they'll do something like say, "Well, Obama made fun of those in the Special Olympics" - pick one thing and equate that to 25 things Trump has said and try their hardest to make it seem that they are equally in the wrong- they'll forget, of course, that Obama almost immediately apologized for that remark and that Trump has almost never apologized for anything- and when he does, like about the tape, he backtracks and calls it "locker room talk." Hopefully, what will happen is that they will figure out a way to be honest and admit Trump is a disaster while not feeling responsible somehow for it. That they can still criticize Obama while admitting that Trump is a horrible human being. Until then, expect more of the same. They won't change.
Oh, we sure do. But you have no place saying anything about liberals and their criticism. You accept every bullshit thing Trump does, so you have less than zero credibility. There is not a poster on this board, left or right, that has less credibility than you. SpaceGhost, Bobby..., Tallanover, ATW and numerous others are clearly conservative, and they more or less support Trump- or at least held their nose and chose him over Hillary. I get that. But they call out Trump if he is wrong. You literally do nothing of the sort. I would almost bet the farm that other conservatives think you're completely full of ****, but they're being nice and don't say anything about it. So, if you're thinking that anyone actually gives a molecule of credence to what you say, I am dead-certain you are wrong. But as long as you make yourself happy, beautiful.
I'm going to be honest with you. As of right now, I have nothing to criticize him for. Absolutely nothing.
