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Morey is a horrible gm

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by RocketsTruth, Jun 30, 2017.

  1. DVauthrin

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    Adams, I'll give you, but Morey drafted Capela too. Sabonis hasn't proven anything at the NBA level. Harrell and Dekker are every bit his equal. And Alex Abrines is nothing special.
     
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    Anderson makes 18M and is locked up for four years, how do you know teams will take him for just 2 picks, none of which are lotto picks?

    Clippers had to trade a top 10 lotto pick to get rid of Baron Davis' contract, and Davis was on the books for just 2 years and they had to take back expiring salary. Anderson is on the books for 4 and yet teams will absorb his contract for 2 picks?

    This is entering Free Agency, right? Why will teams take a crappy player for 2 low picks when they sign a free agent of their own? And even then how do you guarantee CP3 will wait on his ass long enough for all these deals to be made so he can sign?
     
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    ny is not taking the contract back for melo, so we should all forget that pipedream. and in the scenario from my post we still have lou/dekker/harrell leftover after signing cp3 and dumping anderson's albatross contract
     
  4. RockFanFirst

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    How did this thread get to 7 pages?
     
  5. pippendagimp

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    it's been posted here (sorry forgot where) that the going price to dump anderson was 2 first round picks. sorry i don't remember whose tweet it was, maybe woj or a lesser guy
     
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    i'll give you capela as well. but imo sabonis and abrines are going to be productive players in this league. and glad you value harrell and dekker as well, that is my point that we shouldn't have just given them away for no good reason
     
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    Whether they would take Anderson for Melo is irrelevant. The Rockets would have to include his salary to match Melo's 25 million.

    And remember CP's one year salary is around 24 million. Since then, the cap has exploded, and he would make about 40 million, leaving the Rockets with no flexibility to make other additions after signing him as a free agent.
     
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    But Anderson just makes 18M though how does that balance with Cp3? Chris Paul makes 22M not 18M, and you need to be under capspace by 22M to sign him so that would mean dumping more guys and since you don't have the LLE and MLEs that is your new team for the year. I don't see how your plan makes any sense at all. If you map out the salaries and impact of your trades you will see why it's not possible to get CP3 and still have a better team than what is on the roster now.

    EDIT: Forgot the other poster's point, CP3 making the max would be higher than his current salary of 22M I don't know how much his max would be but Kevin Durant signed a 27.7M salary with GSW when he left for that team. That means Rox would have to dump EVEN more salary to sign CP3 which really makes your plan unfeasible.
     
  9. DVauthrin

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    But you are missing the point. Would you rather have Harrell, Dekker your 2018 pick and no trade exception, cap space, MLE etc. or Anderson, your MLE, other exceptions and an 11 million trade exception. I'd take the second scenario and it's not close.
     
  10. DVauthrin

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    CP3 would be eligible for the new supermax. Curry just got one from Golden State and his deal is 5 years, 201 million. Or about 40 mil a year.
     
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    my understanding with melo is that they hoped to use the MLE (preserved by trading for cp3 instead of FA signing) to sign him after he got bought out. i doubt anyone ever expected even the dumbass knicks to take on anderson's contract for him.

    for cp3's salary the number i saw was $34M, not $40M. we could have made that room w/ bev + anderson + filler --- wasn't this the original premise in everyone's heads here prior to this past wednesday?
     
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    I can photoshop that.
     
  13. roslolian

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    CP3 won't be eligible for the new supermax:
    http://heavy.com/sports/2017/07/nba-supermax-contract-deal-salary-how-much-designated-player/

    He will have to sign a new max but isn't a supermax which is why I referenced KD's max when he signed with GSW.
     
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    And you are a horrible poster.
     
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    well it's not that clear cut. b/c in scenario 1 we also have cp3 locked up for 4yrs. right now he's on a 1yr rental, we're out of depth, and with new salaries thru the roof we can barely afford even 1 rotation player with those exceptions.
     
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    So in your scenario we would have a worse roster because CP3 makes 12M more than his current 22M salary? I don't see any upside to signing CP3 in FA unless you just wanted him to get paid more and that's assuming Rox were able to clear Anderson's salary for nothing.

    I mean if the cost is the same it's better to have CP3+Anderson than just CP3, no?
     
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    Because this is Clutchfans where you can land the best player available in the offseason and he called a horrible GM somehow.
     
  19. pippendagimp

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    again, it would be cp3 locked up 4yrs + our roster depth vs cp3 on a 1yr rental now + anderson's deadweight
     
  20. DVauthrin

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    I was wrong about the supermax for CP3, but even still, to get to 34 million would require shipping off even more assets then they did in the trade, and they have no MLE or trade exception after the deal. They also wouldn't have come out ahead after trading Anderson's deal because it was going to cost them two first rounders to do so.
     
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