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Handicap the 2017-18 NBA Season

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by celebrevida, Jun 13, 2017.

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Which teams make the NBA Finals in 2018?

  1. Cavaliers vs Warriors

    24 vote(s)
    72.7%
  2. Cavaliers vs non-Warriors

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. non-Cavaliers vs Warriors

    5 vote(s)
    15.2%
  4. non-Cavaliers vs non-Warriors

    4 vote(s)
    12.1%
  1. celebrevida

    celebrevida Member

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    There are four scenarios that cover all possibilities for 2018.

    For those into gambling how would you handicap the following scenarios?

    Cavaliers vs Warriors
    Cavaliers vs non-Warriors
    non-Cavaliers vs Warriors
    non-Cavaliers vs non-Warriors

    For those not into betting odds, imagine instead 1 million parallel universes all starting identically on June 13, 2017. What percentage of those universes result in each of these scenarios?
     
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  2. celebrevida

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    Here is my answer to the million parallel universe percentages.

    Cavaliers vs Warriors: 60%
    Cavaliers vs non-Warriors: 2.5%
    non-Cavaliers vs Warriors: 35%
    non-Cavaliers vs non-Warriors: 2.5%
     
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  3. FTW Rockets FTW

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    Here is mine:

    Championship: Warriors (100%) - Unless an injury happens
     
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  4. Jugdish

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    The Cavs just swept the East. Who can beat them next year?
     
  5. celebrevida

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    Celtics + Fultz + Top Free Agent
     
  6. davidxhz

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    agree, our rockets team have no chance, i repeat, no chance to upset them, unless injuries happen or we get 2 super stars to join our team
     
  7. mfastx

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    Barring injuries, it will obviously be Cavs Warriors again. Injuries do happen sometimes though.
     
  8. YOLO

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    no chance
     
  9. Fulgore

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    Cavs vs warriors can be penciled in for the next 3 finals. Just fast forward
     
  10. Rocket River

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    Celtics should be possible
    but I don't think the #1 pick will push them over the top in their 1st year

    I expect the Cavs to make some changes too

    Rocket River
     
  11. celebrevida

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    Fultz (or whoever else they pick) won't push them over the top. But Fultz + Hayward or Paul George or any other A-level free agent might.

    Notice I have Cavs a 62.5% chance of returning to the Finals. I think they are more likely to return than not but they are vulnerable. Lebron is getting older and starting to decline. And the rest of the team has weaknesses, especially in size and defense. Also their salary cap situation severely limits what moves they can make to improve.
     
  12. Rocket River

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    Love or Thompson will be gone i think
    They need the salary for something else

    Rocket River
     
  13. RocketDream

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    I don't think Fultz will make that large an impact as a rookie.

    If the Celtics wanted to push all-in for next year, they'd need to sign a major free agent (say, Blake Griffin), trade the #1 for someone like George and trade next year's Nets pick plus some stuff for, like, Butler.

    PG: Thomas
    SG: Butler
    SF: George
    PF: Griffin
    C: Horford

    That would dethrone the Cavaliers. It might also give Golden State a run for their money. I don't think the Celtics are looking to push all their chips in for next season, though. Also, that team would cost an absolute bomb.
     
  14. celebrevida

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    I think the odds of Cavs back in the Finals have dropped a bit.
     
  15. roslolian

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    I still think they beat Celts with or without Irving. Horford, Thomas and Hayward are just a medium three and Cavs won't trade Irving for nobodies (didn't even want Melo+pick)
     
  16. WFU Guy

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    I think this under estimates how much LeBron might not be engaged with the team at that point in the year. That's happened prior and this is now the worst, it would seem, this team has been run to date.
     
  17. J.R.

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    http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...otals-standings-every-nba-team-2017-18-season

    1. Golden State(62.1 wins)
    2. Houston(55)
    Projected wins: 55.0

    Although RPM was much higher on the Rockets than conventional wisdom, Houston still easily outperformed a 47-win projection. After adding Chris Paul, RPM now likes the Rockets as the greatest threat to Golden State. Remarkably, the additions of Paul and defensive-minded Luc Richard Mbah a Moute and PJ Tucker mean Houston projects as slightly better defensively (fourth) than offensively (fifth). We'll see if that plays out as projected.

    3. San Antonio(52.6)
    4. Minnesota(50.1)
    5. Oklahoma City(49.5)
    6. LA Clippers(48.9)
    7. Denver(47.2)
    8. Utah(44.7)
    9. New Orleans(44.2)
    10. Portland(43.8)
    11. Dallas(34.6)
    12. Memphis(34.6)
    13. LA Lakers(33)
    14. Phoenix(30.3)
    15. Sacramento(27.4)

    1. Boston(49.4 wins)
    2. Cleveland(49.2)
    3. Washington(47.5)
    4. Milwaukee(46.9)
    5. Charlotte(44.1)
    6. Toronto(43.4)
    7. Miami(42.3)
    8. Detroit(35.1)
    9. Philadelphia(33.2)
    10. Orlando(32.2)
    11. Indiana(32)
    12. New York(32)
    13. Brooklyn(29.5)
    14. Chicago(28.5)
    15. Atlanta(27.0)​
     
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  18. samtaylor

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    So the top five teams in the West will all have a better record than the #1 East team
     
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  19. BigMaloe

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    Here is my answer to the million parallel universe percentages.

    Cavaliers vs Warriors: 50%
    Cavaliers vs non-Warriors: 15%
    non-Cavaliers vs Warriors: 30%
    non-Cavaliers vs non-Warriors: 5%

    Gsw = 80% getting to finals
    Cavs = 65% getting to finals
    Eastern field = 35% getting to finals
    Western field =20% getting to finals
     
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  20. HtownTrill

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    I think Golden State Is going to have a major Injury which negates them a trip to the finals and Cleveland ends up trading Kyrie for Bledsoe and pieces and ultimately get knocked off by Boston in 7
     

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