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Comey Senate Intelligence Panel testimony discussion thread

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  1. adoo

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    a more accurate description is that he is running the presidency like a mafia family, where,
    w no checks and balance, everyone is answerable to the Donald.

    even a CEO is answerable to the BOD selected by the stockholders.
     
  2. dmoneybangbang

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    How does that prevent Russians and others from creating bots that spread fake news?

    How does that prevent Russia from trying to tamper with voting machines?
     
  3. fchowd0311

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    Russia exposed private correspondences of one side and even then majority of the right wing bubble claims come from shaky 6 degrees of separation bullshit and 'reading between the lines'.

    Space Ghost, how naive would one have to be to believe that a massive dump of RNC private correspondences wouldn't net the same level of 'omg this party is corrupt' narrative? If there is a sliver of a chance to spin, it will spin.
     
  4. fchowd0311

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    I agree with the general gist of your post but let's understand that a CEO has to actually answer to shareholders and is often watched over like a hawk.

    Trump wouldn't survive a month as a CEO of a major publicly traded company.

    He's more equivalent to a used cars salesman who just was fortunate to be born into 300 million dollars worth of capital.
     
  5. cml750

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    Oh you can talk all you want. When you start to actually believe without a shred of evidence then you have a problem and are in for what looks like a huge letdown. If you want to admit you were clueless to what unmasking is then kudos. Do not wishcast this ignorance on the rest on us.
     
  6. FranchiseBlade

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    Why are you denying the evidence? There is evidence of all kinds of stuff. Is there evidence that Trump himself colluded with the Russians? No, and it's why I haven't accused him of that. But there is evidence that Russians interfered and we know that Trump's people lied over and over again about meetings with the Russians.
     
  7. fchowd0311

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    Think about it this way. Multiple associates of a presidential campaign are under investigation by the FBI for colluding with the Russian government to alter an American election. That is unprecedented in American history. You think that isn't going to generate massive media coverage?
     
  8. No Worries

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    All this depend on the Republicans in the congress, if they want to impeach him, they can, but I do not think there will be enough of them at this time. I believe Trump is safe at least until 2018 election, if Democrats can take over the house, there might be a chance Trump get impeached after the election. Water gate was over things less dramatic than what Comey testified yesterday, we will see what Muller can come up with anything new. I think one or more Trump aids will be charged with something later.
     
  10. pirc1

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    To the core Trump supporters, nothing matters, they will vote for him in 2020 even if he is impeached.
     
  11. NewRoxFan

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    Love the spin. But lets go back just a few years to 1968. Nixon won... won clearly. But there was that whole Watergate thing. And there must have been Nixon supporters like bigtexxx and talllanver and cml750 and space ghost defending Nixon with "they are just Nixon haters" and "what, did Nixon break into that hotel?" "OK, Nixon may be a little weird, but why would he do that?" and "watergate watergate watergate." Heck, I bet the Nixon supporters would even try blaming the other side for nominating McGovern.
     
  12. cml750

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    Impeach him for what at this point? You are a die hard Trump hater who will be against him no matter what so I guess little things like actual evidence do not matter. You act like he is already guilty which is the whole point of what I have been trying to say. He has already been prosecuted and convicted in the eyes of most liberals while we have seen zero evidence to this point except lies, innuendos, and half truths stemming from information that should have never been leaked to the media in the first place but none of you condemn the source of the information. If, and that is a big if at this point, any actual evidence is presented that Trump did something that is actually impeachable, I promise I will lead the pitchfork battalion and I would be willing to bet that Congress would be lining up as well.

    No I am not a Trump fan boy but did vote for him as a vote against Hillary. I hate the guy and considered not voting at all until I realized Hillary may actually win. I was a Cruz supporter that hated Trump and still do although I like most of what he has done so far with a few expections. What I don't do is let the media echo chamber influence my thought process like you and others have. I will wait for the investigation to proceed and I fully expect it will not yield anything. If it does, I will be against Trump in a second as stated before.
     
  13. pirc1

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    For obstructing justice of course, the cover up is always worse than the crime. Tell me what did Nixon do that was worse than Trump?
     
  14. peleincubus

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    Perhaps things started to change when things like this began happening.

     
  15. fchowd0311

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    Cml... Question.

    If associates under Obama's presidential campaign were under investigation by the FBI for colluding with a foreign government to alter elections would you tell us to 'move along'?

    Here's the thing I think you have a difficult time grasping(you probably would have an easier time grasping this concept if we replaced Trump with Obama). The FBI doesn't take on investigations that have zero baseline evidence. There is a certain threshold of circumstantial evidence before the FBI deems it worthy of an investigation and they deem it worthy to investigate multiple Trump associates for what they did under Trump's employment.
     
  16. Space Ghost

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    My advice would be the same to them. Don't engage in unethical behavior and secure your ****.
     
  17. cml750

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    Politicians lie all the time. Trump, Bush, Obama and Hillary are great liars. I wish Trump's people had told the truth about their contacts but there is still no evidence they did anything to influence the election that has been presented. Lets take Kushner as an example. He is accussed of trying to set up a back channel with the Russians. That surely sounds nefarious until you look at the timing. He did it in December AFTER the election. If they were colluding with the Russians to win the election, don't you think they would have had a back channel during the election? Besides, a back channel is not uncommon. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/back-channel-communications-white-house/story?id=47753517
     
  18. No Worries

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    Funny story ... Trump was not under investigation at the time of Comey's firing. After the firing, Trump is now under investigation, not for colluding with the Russian but obstruction of justice.

    Trump is his own worst enemy.
     
  19. Svpernaut

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    The shareholders are the voters, we just only get to vote every four years.

    What I truly want, are Trump supporters to either:

    A. Admit that President Trump is a liar
    or
    B. Openly call for President Trump to refute Comey under oath

    Otherwise, STFU about him saying Comey was lying. I'll believe a guy under oath in a senate hearing over a Tweet every freaking time. Trump has the power to put this to rest quickly and easily - all he has to do is say Comey was lying while under oath.
     
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  20. NewRoxFan

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    And here is a perfect way for Trump to put up or shut up. He claimed to have tapes. Secret tapes. Make the tapes public. We will then learn who is telling the truth. My bet... if the tapes exist, they will prove Comey was telling the truth and Trump was lying. If the tapes doen't exist, Trump was lying, both about the existence of tapes and about what Comey said. My hunch, we will hear the tapes the same day we see Trump's tax returns.
     
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