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The left - their problem is all they care about is "virtue signaling"

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  1. bigtexxx

    bigtexxx Member

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    Virtue signaling, defined as "the action or practice of publicly expressing opinions or sentiments intended to demonstrate one's good character or the moral correctness of one's position on a particular issue."

    Just look at the two topics dominating the news this past week:

    1) Even more Islamic terrorist attacks in Europe. The left is scared to even say the words "Islamic terrorism", because they are worried that others will perceive them as intolerant or non-inclusive. Nevermind how hypocritical this is, given the terrorists' (and arguably even the Islamic religion) views around gays and women (>50% of the world). The left is not serious about rooting out terrorism, only appearing tolerant. Their actions speak for themselves.

    2) Climate change. The Paris agreement was a complete joke. It was voluntary and unenforceable. They claim "oh look at all the companies like ExxonMobil and Peabody Coal who support this" - well of course they do - do you think they would support it if the agreement actually hurt their business? No. They want to get the virtue signaling points just like all the governments want them, to appear virtuous around protecting the environment, even thought the agreement is flimsy and unenforceable. Even environmentalists criticized the agreement. James Hansen, a former NASA scientist described in The Guardian as being “considered the father of global awareness of climate change,” called the Paris agreement “a fraud” consisting of “promises” and aims without firm commitments. He told The Guardian in December 2015 that the agreement was “just worthless words. There is no action, just promises. As long as fossil fuels appear to be the cheapest fuels out there, they will continue to be burned.”
     
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  2. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I will say one thing about the climate accord

    I doubt 99% of anyone knows what's actually in it
     
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    makes sense - the right was all about lying, hating science and dark people so no surprise to see this post.
     
  4. across110thstreet

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    OP's problem is that he has been rendered impotent on this message board, left only to ponder and blather about the left while the President golfs
     
  5. dmoneybangbang

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    It's only 16 page long.....

    It's clear the Trump administration didn't realize it was non-binding and that the US could have reduced their monetary contribution while still remaining the agreement. Pretty embarrassing really.
     
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    oh they knew it was non-binding. they left it to have a "win" and get their base fired up even though it will hurt us from a global leadership perspective.
     
  7. dmoneybangbang

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    So is one Trump's top generals, Mathis:
    Trump's new national security adviser: Saying 'radical Islamic terrorism' is counterproductive


    So then why get of the Paris Agreement and claim it's bad for America allowing China to grab the spotlight? Glad you admit Trump lied about the Paris Agreement effects on the US economy.
     
  8. RocketsLegend

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    This post illustrates what is wrong with the left.
     
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    Are You Guilty of “Virtue-Signaling?”

    British author James Bartholomew has secured his place in history. Recently, he invented the perfect phrase for our times: “virtue signaling.”

    Virtue signaling is the popular modern habit of indicating that one has virtue merely by expressing disgust or favor for certain political ideas, cultural happenings, or even the weather. When a liberal goes on a tirade about how dumb and dangerous Senator and Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz is—a tirade devoid of specific examples of Cruz’s mendacity—that person is actually signaling to others that he or she is virtuous. It has very little to do with Cruz’s actually personality or record.

    Celebrities who publicly express panic about the environment without knowing much about science are virtue signaling. So are those who seize on current events to publicize their supposedly virtuous feelings, as Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg did recently when he wrote on Facebook: “If you’re a Muslim in this community, as the leader of Facebook I want you to know that you are always welcome here and that we will fight to protect your rights and create a peaceful and safe environment for you.” Well, that’s a relief—Facebook won’t be banning Muslims.

    Modern virtue signaling began in the 1960s, when cultural leftism overthrew not just the conservatism of the 1950s but also the vital center of liberalism. Conservatives and moderate liberals had done plenty of virtue signaling of their own, and a lot of it was based on racism and hatred of homosexuality, but a lot of it was also grounded in reason and truth. William F. Buckley, Richard Nixon, and Whittaker Chambers were right about communism. Moderate liberals also favored research and analysis over slogans. Liberal Daniel Patrick Moynihan’s 1965 report, “The Negro Family: The Case for National Action,” predicted the catastrophe that would befall the black community as a result of broken families.

    The New Left of the 1960s was more about rage than reason, and they passed their anger down to their Millennial offspring. Often the entire front page of left-leaning websites like Slate and Salon are nothing but virtue signaling, the headlines all variations of: Celebrity/Politician/Activist A Just Destroyed the Homophobic/Sexist/Racist Idiocy of Politician B. Usually the articles are jeremiads without much reporting. If research is going to buzzkill your virtue signaling, well then, to hell with research.

    But then, virtue signaling is not about journalism. It’s a way to vent your anger. As James Bartholomew describes:

    It’s noticeable how often virtue signalling consists of saying you hate things. It is camouflage. The emphasis on hate distracts from the fact you are really saying how good you are. If you were frank and said, ‘I care about the environment more than most people do’ or ‘I care about the poor more than others’, your vanity and self-aggrandizement would be obvious. . . . Anger and outrage disguise your boastfulness.

    One of the most appalling examples of this appeared recently on the Huffington Post. In “Dear Islamophobes: Your Racism is Putting Us all in Danger,” writer Ryan Grim, who failed to marshal research, conduct interviews, or consult polls, declared:

    Anti-immigrant and anti-Muslim political parties in Europe have stirred up a tremendous amount of Islamophobia there, and such attitudes naturally drive feelings of anger and betrayal. For a young man or woman on the edge, it can be just enough to push them into radicalization, and it’s not a coincidence that Europe has seen far more homegrown attacks. Yet we here in the U.S. seem to be barreling headlong for that same cliff.

    It’s delivered like Holy Writ, without sourcing or self-reflection or doubt: Islamophobia is declared irrational, blamed for producing feelings of anger and betrayal in Muslims, which then pushes young people “on the edge” towards radicalization. No need to dive into data about Muslim attitudes about jihad. No need to examine the contradiction of liberals who argue that vulgar elements of pop culture have no effect on people, even people “on the edge.”

    Bravo, James Bartholomew. You have invented a useful and timely neologism. Hopefully it will lead to public awareness of or disgust with virtue signaling, which is both obnoxious and intellectually lazy. At the very least, it is a reminder that genuine virtue, pursued in everyday acts and often hard-won, isn’t likely to be found in places like The Huffington Post.

    https://acculturated.com/virtue-signaling/
     
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    If you cannot express the problem, you cannot solve the problem.
     
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    When you have to blame a "proverbial left" for all the problems in the world when your party holds all three branches of government, has the #1 "news" channel, has White House press credentials for Briettbart and Info Wars, and has the tailwind of a healthy economy, you know something is wrong.

    It's like the insecure guy at the gym who is ripped and has a model girlfriend but is so insecure that he has to yell when he's lifting his weights so everyone around knows he's lifting more than anyone else.

    Some of you guys on the right are so insecure it's pretty comical. You don't know what to do with the privilege and power that your party has and instead spin your wheels making believe there are big bad liberals around taking away what's owed to you for your reward for being a "real American".

    Go cry to someone else and take owenership of who you helped put in office. Come cry to me if the Dems take back the House and Trump gets impeached. Until then stop crying and get to work making this country better like you obviously think your party can.
     
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    And your posting shows what is wrong with the world.
     
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    The irony of you writing this is not lost on the majority of those who read it.
     
  15. dandorotik

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    From the GOP National Platform:

    "Foremost among those institutions is the American family. It is the foundation of civil society, and the cornerstone of the family is natural marriage, the union of one man and one woman."

    KO in the 1st round.
     
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  16. No Worries

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    I'm sure that there must be a really good reason that this does not count.
     
  17. Invisible Fan

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    They did. He took a symbolic measure and symbolically shat on it.

    I like the OP's premise where the deal is so terrible that we're better off without an agreement, despite pragmatists and business leaders claiming the current agreement essentially is in its unenforceable state, or that a replacement, is possible with Trump. If you're promoting the idea of Scott Pruitt hashing out a great climate change deal, I have some coastal swampland to sell you.

    Trump already negated Obama's executive orders dealing with climate change. Our part of the agreement was already gutted. Trump pulled out for a reaction, and it's asinine to whine that he got what he intended.

    Virtue signaling lol. I pray for your clouded soul.
     
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  18. peleincubus

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    At least the OP espoused an opinion with a bit of detail and length for once. Instead of just crapping on everyone else's he does not agree with.
     
  19. wouldabeen23

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    Yeah, but the deep state and the shadow government are leftist's bent on destroying Murrica
     
  20. CometsWin

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    Another distraction from the right having selected an ignorant, lying, p***y grabbing buffoon as their leader.
     

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