What we really need is common sense lorry control because when terrorists use those to kill people, the death tolls are staggering.
We'll see, that's just a first step, the next step is to take the kid gloves off when dealing with known extremists. They claim to know of 2000 such people, we'll see if they start closing in on them.
Interesting isn't it - take away guns and terrorists can still perpetrate acts of terror with knives.
Prayers and thoughts go out to the victims and London. **** just doesn't stop man. People are psychos. All I can say is smoke em if yah got em and be grateful, live life another day.
But you try to provide 'solutions' along with many posters on this board and they are half-assed and come from a standpoint of trying to find an entity to feel superior over. You state that world leaders ought to condemn Islam and then I ask you how that would tangibly make the situation better and by better I mean less lives lost and you never provide an answer. It shows that you don't actually care about a solution.
I'm not advocating for gun control but are you really so stupid that you think a knife is as effective as a gun? Why don't hunters save a ton of money and just buy knives? Why don't people just buy knives for home protection since they are cheaper and no need for bullets.
You said its a trick by lefties, but its what got you to elicit an actual response to progress the conversation forward. And I wrote a novel earlier this morning (something I get criticized for rightly) so I'd point you back a few pages where I went at length on my thoughts. You pointed to Moderate Muslims being the key. So how do we give them the ability to reform from within and for the peaceful muslim leaders to have strong enough institutions to help stabilize the middle east and be a more productive partner in helping fight terrorism? Then there is the Right's response that we saw in full force this morning. What are their solutions to solve that conundrum? Do you not think that since the Moderate Muslims are key, that the solutions of the Right ,whether it be Ted Cruz wanting to "Carpet Bomb them All" or Trump wanting to establish ethnic cleansing policies like internment camps & banning all of them from entering the country, are helping towards that goal of getting Moderate Muslims to take a bigger leadership role in fighting the radicalization of their religion? I mean they do have as much to gain as anyone in destroying radical Islam. What is it.. 95% of people that are killed by Radical Islamic organizations are actually muslim. So you'd think they'd have a mutual interest in fighting the radicalization of their religion. I just want to know what the end game is here that the Right is seeking to achieve. I don't think that's too much to ask, but that's just me.
I think you misunderstood me - my point was that taking away guns won't stop those hell bent on killing.
I didn't say we should ban guns. Again I ask, why don't people who buy guns for home defense switch to knives and save themselves a bunch of money? You at least pretend to be a smart guy so I'm hoping you will admit that guns are more effective at killing than a knife. I mean it's an established fact proven by centuries of warfare, but apparently the native people who were overrun by invaders with guns were just weak? They should have realized that you could do just as much damage with a knife!
If a terrorist walked into a restaurant where your family was eating would you want him armed with a gun or a knife? The arguments against gun control should be focused on constitutional rights and that these type events are so rare they shouldn't dictate changing the constitution, but mockingly pointing out that they used knives instead of guns is flat out stupid. If these guys on London were armed with ar-15s for example the death toll would be in the double digits or worse.
My point was that just because something is effective at killing large numbers of people, such as a cargo truck, that's not an argument for restriction. So yeah, obviously a gun is more effective at killing people than a knife....but that's not really relevant. The dead people are every bit as dead one way or the other and the problem still isn't the tool they used to kill the person, it's the fact that they were intent on killing others. You'll never eliminate a person's ability to kill others, there's a reason why humans are the most dangerous animal on the planet, the only thing you can really do is try and stop those who would want to kill people before they do so.
These stupid anti Jesus loving scum liberals care more about not offending all Muslims instead of caring about the innocent people killed. I hope trump bans all liberals too. Y'all can go play with these ****ing crazy ****s
Dude you need to look in the mirror. You make a lot of posts dogging other members thinking your idealogy rules. I think you are a smart individual but you also remind us of it constantly. Even yesterday when you were praising american muslims because of their higher education came off as you trying to act superior.
