ClipsNation: Doc Rivers, Kevin Durant, and Super Teams: Where Do We Draw the Line?

Doc is the Head Coach and GM of the clippers. It's hypocritical for him to diss Durant for joining the Warriors Big 3 when last year he tried to recruit Durant to join his Big 3. Everyone knows he'll be singing a different tune if Durant had picked the Clippers.

 

I guess it shows that doc wasn't against building a super team with Durant

 

Guys don't mind super teams. What they mind is player empowerment.

 

What idiots don't understand is that the organization put the Boston superteam together, why would Paul Pierce turn down easy money after losing by himself for so long.

KD chose to leave and he has every right to. The sheep are brainwashed and say nothing about anything the organization does but only the player who has a right to once a FA.

Only an feminine male would not understand the difference.

 

Also, I didn't see mentioned but the Boston 3 were formed differently.

Pierce was already there
Ray Allen was TRADED to Boston (As well as Big Baby)
KG was also TRADED to Boston
Rondo was TRADED there in 2006
Perkins was already in Boston since 2003

None of those guys came together as free agents to the same team. Besides roster fillers (PJ Brown, Sam Cassell, James Posey...etc) Every one else was either already there, or traded there.

Nobody was a b****ass and colluded together to form a "super team"

 

You're making a straw man argument. Please quote one person in this thread that said KD has no right to leave. We aren't talking about restricting personal liberties here. We are saying that the product of the NBA was significantly worsened by KD making this move. A few people are also disparaging his competitive spirit. But, no one is saying s*** about his "right to leave."

 

KG had no trade clause, he was basically a free agent. He declined trade to the Celtics until they got Ray Allen.

Durant took the best job offer, nothing wrong there, just low intelligence people like yourself have problem with it. He would be stupid to do anything else.

 

Anyone that doesn't agree with you is low IQ, gotcha, internet hero at its finest.

 

what makes durant's move the most pathetic in league history is that this p***y in a most epic fashion choked against the warriors just a few weeks before teaming up with them. it's like if harden tries to force a trade to the sperms 10days from now.

 

The line will keep getting lower.

 

Actually, as fans of the game, you don't want to see this type of collusion between players and a team. It hurts the game. See, I said, GAME. Not Durant.
If you want to argue that the game is better for Durant's decision, let's have that argument, but it be low intelligence on your part to do so. Otherwise quit trolling.

 

Sorry Glenn, sorry Paul, you don't get to talk.

"I'm not wired that way!"

 

This should not be a discussion about what players would or wouldn't do. It should be about the league itself being broken that allows this and competition.

Every team would have happily signed kd, there is no question about that. But for the league to keep allowing super teams to exist. It is similar to the league mandating the most you can sign a player for: the concept of a max contract. Why did they do it? It was to protect the owners from themselves.

Here is the same. As long as it is within the rules, owners are going to try to game the system. Until the league decides it has had enough.

 

Just wait till players will start feeling that their teams suck, even if they're middle of the pack and start demanding trades into top 2-3 ones, like per say, AD would ask Pelicans to be traded to Cavs once/if they loose to GSW so he would even the field out, the possibilities are endless and this my friend, Durant saga might be just begging of what's yet to come.

 

But there's a difference. The Clippers were coming off of a first round loss(granted, due in large part to injuries to Paul and Griffin). They'd never been out of the 2nd round in the entire history of the franchise. So Durant joining them even with the talent they already had on that roster would've still presented a challenge as far as winning a title.

What Durant did was piggyback off a team coming off a 73-9 regular season, 2 straight trips to the Finals, one championship and nearly another had it not been for an epic LeBron blocked shot and clutch Kyrie 3-pointer. There was no challenge in joining the Warriors. Everyone knew the moment he signed with them that barring injuries, it would be Golden State vs Cleveland in the Finals again and here we are 11 months later with exactly that.

And the comparison to other superteams is disingenuous. Doc's Celtics were put together over a period of several years. Ainge spent a long time stockpiling assets Morey-style so he could pull of the Garnett and Allen trades. Boston sucked for quite a while before turning into an overnight contender. And BTW, Ainge did the same thing again after their Big 3(and Doc) moved on.

 

Super "friends" teams orchestrated by superstars are the death of the NBA. They have every right to go anywhere they choose too, but you can't ever put them in the MJ, Kobe, Magic, Bird, Hakeem level of greatness. The old school players were too competitive to go play with guys they were trying to beat. This is the part of the Lebron better than MJ debate idiots don't mention. Also, the level of play has been watered down since Lebron got in the league. Any super team in the east will have a cakewalk into the finals

 

There is no difference between what Durant did and countless other players have done. The issue isn't Durant, the issue is the league allowing super teams to exist in the first place.

 

Well, this is where I draw the line. I don't want the NBA outlawing superteams. I'm a free market guy. Let the ratings collapse and the dollars dry up and the superteam infestation will go away on its own. The last thing we want is for the league to start stepping in and vetoing free agent signings and trades.

And yes, there IS a difference between Durant and others. What top 2 or 3 player in the NBA in recent history left a really good team that was one win away from the Finals for the team that beat him that was coming off of a historic regular season and was one shot away from its 2nd consecutive title?

 

MJ, Kobe, Magic, Hakeem, all of them got super teams constructed one way or the other.

Kobe got Shaq, Pau, Lamar, Metta, Howard, etc. Magic went to a team that already had Kareem on it due to some draft luck that they got via the Jazz, otherwise he'd have never been on the lakers as that team was too good, Hakeem got clyde and MJ retired the first year of the rockets back to back. Bird had an allstar team as well.