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The way "mental health" is portrayed now...

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Dankstronaut, May 30, 2017.

  1. Dankstronaut

    Dankstronaut Way, way out here.

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    There's a silly video now about comparing physical pain to emotional pain and how people react.

    Let me see if I can do this without pissing off everyone...

    It's ok to be depressed. It's ok to be anxious. That means you're human and little else.

    It is NOT ok to use other people's genuine hormonal instabilities to justify you moping around for however long you feel like doing it. That is NOT the same thing.

    Something about that video hit a sore spot for me, I just can't imagine how many Daria-inspired...mumbling...whiny...life-isn't-fair types got empowered in their moping by this. Yeah, it's ok if you have severe depression...but hey let's do something about it? Yeah, it's ok if "life has you down" for a minute...but hey, let's do something about it, yeah?

    It's NOT OK to be a mopey mope-face moper just because your personality is lacking real depth. To just wallow in it because "it's ok".

    Ugh.
     
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  2. sirbaihu

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    I don't know the video you're referring to. . . . To some extent I agree with you; to some extent I disagree.

    Look at it this way: you go to Walmart or Target, look at people's obese deformed bodies. Many people cannot run, for all intents and purposes. Many people cannot walk for extended periods. Some people who actually can walk still think it's normal to ride around in an electric cart rather than walk. I don't totally blame them, for our American life is very far from nature. But I do blame them some.

    Now, people's minds may very well be the same: obese, disabled, deformed. I don't totally blame them, for our American life is very far from nature. But I do blame them some.
     
  3. Dankstronaut

    Dankstronaut Way, way out here.

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    I don't think that's an apples to apples comparison. You can't fake being fat and there's no way it's healthy. If that's the life you have or in some cases choose, that's your deal but it's unhealthy. It's wrong for people to just berate you about it but it's unhealthy.

    Maybe it would make sense if you saw the video. In my life I've dealt with varying degrees of this from people, from straight acting to legit in need of psychological help. And it's "ok" that it happens, it happens to everyone eventually. It's "ok" to me as long as you acknowledge the problem and actively seek to do something about it. I guess, just the video, kinda was saying it's ok to be a moping blob of crybaby and call it depression or anxiety so you can have a burden to bear. It just isn't the same thing. It will never be and it's not OK to me to fake it or lump yourself in with people who really have a problem.
     
  4. sirbaihu

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    I have no horse in this race, but I think the comparison deserves more scrutiny. You can certainly fake being out of shape. For example, many people who think they can't exercise actually can; they are just too damn lazy. In my above example, we have people choosing to ride in electric carts, after they walk up to the electric cart and sit down on it, i.e. they actually can walk, they just don't want to exert the effort.

    You seem to be saying some people are legitimately allowed to say they are depressed--because it can be diagnosed as real depression--while other people should not claim to be depressed because they aren't really. I probably agree with you, and I think the medication epidemic is insanely out of control, especially for young people. As a teacher of college students, I have many who are on medication and have basic behavioral problems. Things were not like this 30 years ago.

    But maybe there's another part of your argument. As you said, you can see obesity but you can't see mental illness. Maybe the bigger problem is all the people who think they are mentally fit, but actually they are hugely deformed, by, say, sitting on their ass and looking at one website for ten hours a day, or dividing their attention span into hundreds of segments a day by breaking it up with social media messaging, etc. How many murders and dead bodies have you seen in real life? How many have you seen through media? How many people whom you have seen with you own eyes would you endorse killing? How many people whom you have not seen would you endorsed killing? Something is out of whack there, in a deadly, sick way, My real question here is: if your mind were a body, what would it look like?
     
  5. Dankstronaut

    Dankstronaut Way, way out here.

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    i should have posted this to begin with, even though i don't like it's message. and yeah, that's pretty much what i'm saying in that 2nd paragraph. i guess i've just been around too many people that say "oh i'm depressed" or something and it's like...do you take meds? no. do you see therapists? no. have you been to a doctor? no. wellllllll maybe do one of those things or quit acting like you have a problem. to me this video goes beyond the people who have diagnosed depression, who have taken measures against it....to me it says it's ok just to BE depressed. No it isn't.
     
  6. JuanValdez

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    Idk, the world is filled with assholes and we're all invariably going to die. There's an argument to be made that more people should be depressed.
     
  7. glynch

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    Well one thing for sure, we cannot interfere with the FREEDOM of big food corporations to maximize their profits by having their scientists design the most addicting combinations of corn syrup, refined white flour and unhealthy fats. Of course they spend billions advertising these unhealthy products. Likewise having an hour of physical activity and taking crap food out of schools would interfere with their FREEDOM to maximize profits and minimize their taxes.
    The corporate managers may know how harmful it is but they cannot exercise enough responsibility to stop doing these activities as well as contribute to politicians and media that back their irresponsible behavior. I realized they are scared for their jobs or their bosses, but I do blame them some.
     

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