[Journalism in 2017] "A person familiar with his thinking"

Do they?

I know they used to. I don't necessarily trust they do this anymore. When I see venerable institutions like WaPo holding joint fundraisers with the DNC, you'll excuse me if I don't fall over myself believing they "fact check" worth a damn.

 

Because you don't like their stories, there must be something nefarious going on?

Could all/most/or some these leaks be people that are either worried about Trump's fitness or merely his own staff don't like working for the guy?

And Trump's relationship with Roger Ailes (while alive) and Rupert Murdoch doesn't swing conservative media coverage? Hannity is a good mouth piece specifically for Trump's agenda within FOX. He has Steve Bannon on his staff to influence a popular conservative news blog called Breitbart.

Could you at least be honest that the media slant isn't some liberal media bias. At least be honest that both sides have dug themselves into an echo chamber.

 

You know as much now as you did then. Don't fool yourself.

 

I've been burned too many times by the "experts" in the media...left or right leaning... to just buy into their narrative as you seem to be.

If I was so inclined, I could produce many instances where the news media screwed up the story whether it favored the conservative OR the liberal perspective. I'm not so inclined because it would be a waste of my time to produce it. I doubt it would change your mind and I'm not interested in any attempt to try.

All? Most? Some? (hey, maybe even none!) How would I know? Nobody in this forum knows...they just assume based upon speculative reporting that has been (to be very kind) less than forthcoming in actual sources.

That's my whole point.

I don't choose to spend a lot of time speculating as it is simply another waste of time. When something concrete comes up, then we'll both know.

Echo chambers exist. And?

It's not that both parties have echo chambers. Its the overwhelming difference in SIZE of echo chambers that creates a media bias towards liberal thought.

That's not honesty.

Taking the ONE (and only) conservative leaning network and acting like that balances out the FIVE liberal leaning networks (NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, CNN) isn't honesty.

The Wall Street Journal, New York Post, National Review and Breitbart are 4 conservative leaning publications. It doesn't come ANYWHERE NEAR balanced when compared to the mulitple left leaning outlets such as the NYT, WaPo, LA Times, Chicago Tribune, Slate, Huffington Post, NY Daily News, Boston Herald, Time, Newsweek, SF Chronicle, Politico, New Yorker, Economist, Buzzfeed, NPR, Bloomberg, USA Today, The Daily Show, and others I forgot to mention. This doesn't even take into account Hollywood, late night television, and other cultural mouthpieces the left has. I could post many studies and survey's showing liberal bias in the media but...again...I fear it would be a waste of time. If you don't recognize it already for what it is, then I fear it is your own willful blindness to what actually exists. And unfortunately, I don't have the answer for how you fix that.

 

This thing where unless a media source is ridiculously biased for Republicans then it must be biased for Democrats is just the latest conservative false equivalency in a prodigiously long list of them. Facts have a liberal bias of course. This is what happens when the President is a prolific liar. Showing what Trump says and then explaining why it's a lie is just a liberal press being negative as opposed to a free press doing its job.

 

What does burned mean?

Exactly what narrative are you talking about?

I have never claimed any human or organization to be infallible. What I am interested in, is whether they acknowledge and retract their mistake.

Speculative reporting? There's a special counsel involved in investigating Trump.... Are you saying it's ALL smoke and NO fire?

Those special counsels don't happen every other year.... It doesn't seem like this this is a waste of time.

You need to broaden your media.... Conservatives absolutely dominate talk radio, a somewhat dated data point but:

FOX has dominated ratings so it's actually closer than you think.

Here's what a lot of people think about where these outlets stack up:

There are many more conservative outlets you aren't naming, especially blogs, and you completely disregarded radio which is overwhelmingly conservative. As I keep saying, both sides have their echo chamber when you actually look at all forms of media.

It wasn't liberals that got a special counsel involved, it was Trump.

 

Growing up we had 3 channels....CBS, NBC, ABC. I am not sure if that remains the same for poor people like I was. Just a random thought.

 

Despite the fact that I disagree with @RocketsLegend politics , and would classify most of his posts as "trolling" ... I agree that modern journalistic standards suck ass.

A lot of that is on us as consumers . We've moved to the online style and are doused in instant reactions . Opinions are presented as fact and facts are fungible.

Sure , there has been muckraking since the beginning of the country , but the sheer volume of crap that is passed off as journalism nowadays is enough to confuse anyone .

Technically speaking , theres nothing wrong with using "a source familiar with his thinking." However , the problem is what conclusions people can draw from reporting with these types of sources .

It has less to do with the (good or bad) intentions of the reporter , and more how we as a society react . And unfortunately , "journalism" in our capitalist society ... Is for profit . And firms following the money are just making a proper decision by creating these kinds of articles . If they don't , they start to struggle like print news . And in this transition , the reporting process and time that goes into research has been bastardized ... IMO

 

How about when a President gives White House credentials to a trash conspiracy site.

 

well, the folks at One America News Network are sad you ignored them. http://www.oann.com/about/ And according to Fox, they are the #1 news source.

And you are being a bit light on your conservative leaning publications. Newspapers like Washington Examiner, Washington Times, New York Sun, and some of the newspapers you think are "liberal" usually run conservative editorials. And you also missed conservative sites like Townhall, Red State, NewsMax, Hot Air, CNS News, American Thinker, Drudge Report, Gateway Pundit, The Blaze, Pajamas Media, Free Republic, and Conservative Review, just to name some off the top of my head (and have been cited on this site). And as someone else replied with, you have lots of local radio stations and talk radio that are overwhelmingly conservative. Most of which broadcast national conservative talk from Rush Limbaugh, Bill OReilly, Sean Hannity, Hugh Hewitt, Bill Bennett, Laura Ingraham, Mark Levin, Dennis Prager, Larry Elder, Mike Gallagher, Michael Savage, Michael Medved, and many others. And a steady stream of conservative personalities like Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, Sarah Palin, Herman Cain, SE Cupp, Mary Catherine Hamm, Michelle Bachman, Brent Bozell. And then you have the huge number of religious news sources, newspapers, radio stations, television networks, and commentators.

So it isn't like conservatives are huddled in hiding, using shortwave radio to get bits and pieces of conservative news and commentary.

 

Drudge, Breitbart, FOX:

All pushing the "Dead DNC staffer Seth Rich had contacts with Wikileaks" agenda

They claim they have evidence. There's no evidence.

The far right and the fake news run with it, Trumpers eat it up like Oreos stacked 8 deep.

Journalism 2017

 

Fox just retracted that story. Finally. I believe RocketsLegend created a thread about it here.

 

LOL... the biggest story RL got out of Trump's entire foreign trip was whether or not Trump showed or feigned enough interest in another foreign leaders speech. Probably shows you (1) how little Trump actually did on this trip and (2) more likely how little RL paid attention when Trump was crapping all over himself re: NATO.

 

This is really the best you got?

There is photo evidence of Trump looking mopey and not wearing the headset everyone else is wearing and Spicer says he had a microscopic earpiece that nobody else could see.

Spicer could be right or he could be full of sh$*. Who cares? It's an internet meme/joke worthy moment.

It's not like someone started a campaign for years with "anonymous sources stating that he knows as a fact that Trump was actually born in Russia"

There is photo and video evidence. You be the judge if Spicer is being truthful or full of crap. I could care less if he heard the Italian speak or not cause it makes no difference to Trump who feels like he's not respected (he's not) with the global leadership community and just wants to retreat back to his former life were he could live in a world where everyone kissed his a$$ all day every day.

 

lol, international firestorm?

I didn't even know this was a nonstory/controversy until it was "exposed" here. I did read about Trump following his counterparts in the golf cart as they were walking.

People are talking about dementia these days with our current president and it's something that is going on and is being talked about and possibly looked into; the dementia.

 

Theresthedagger will only answer you in platitudes.