[Obstruction of Justice] Trump asked Comey to end Flynn investigation

The problem I have is the hypocrisy of it all (also you know better than to call me a Trump supporter, just because others are being stupid doesn't mean you need to), the same people who STILL claim that Hillary was innocent of mishandling classified information despite physical evidence to the contrary are the same people suggesting that Trump is guilty without even a shred of solid physical evidence to support it.

In order to get closer to objectivity you should ask yourself if the evidence against Trump is sufficient to where you'd have supported impeachment of Obama with the same level of evidence of wrongdoing.

I'm no Trump supporter and if some real evidence comes out that could lead to impeachment legitimately then I'll be all on board for it, but right now this is just a media story.

 

You can only say the evidence so far does not support impeachment, who knows what they will dig up in the future, just sit back and enjoy the show, I know I am.

 

The same intelligence community that investigated Clinton and drew their conclusions is the same who are recommending that this investigation be pursued. I trust them more than Trump. As I've stated before, which I'm not sure why you are ignoring it, I don't think there's anyone who thinks Clinton was innocent of mishandling information. The bottom line is that they decided not to pursue charges against her. Whether you agree with that or not, that's up to you. But that's what happened. I had zero opinion of whether they decided to pursue a case against her or not.

Many of us are saying Trump might be guilty of a crime due to his actions. We are all speculating. But we have a very strong reason for the speculation. So, I say, let's see what happens. If he's innocent, fine. I'm personally tired of all the drama- it's annoying and I wish we had a President who would just ignore the ongoing investigation, the past election, etc. and just do his job.

 

Well so far there isn't any actual evidence, that's my point. Right now it's just people really hoping that they can find something legitimate, which is fine, but they shouldn't play it up as if they have done so already.

 

You might be surprised how much of this post I agree with. The part I vehemently disagree with is that this is "All on Trump". A lot of it is...but certainly not all of it.

Trump says A LOT of things that makes things worse. In that sense, he's an idiot. If the criticism of him was held to that, I would agree silently and let it play out. But that criticism jumps the shark almost as often as Trump does. It's almost as if Trump's stupidity is a virus that those who hate him also contract with their wild speculation and emotional responses. I see it here, in the media, and in the halls of congress with people saying crazy over the top accusations then having to walk them back when it turns out its not true.

The ONLY thing I really want is for the truth to come out and let the chips fall where they may. But unlike many here I don't root for Trump to be impeached eventually. I don't want Trump to be a traitor. I think that it would be incredibly harmful to the country if that was the case. I would however accept that verdict if the investigation provides solid proof of such a crime because not acknowledging and punishing potential crimes such as that would be much, much worse.

So, I'm ready to hold my peace on the Russia thing until the investigation is complete. What do you think the chances of those on the left doing the same would be? Would be nice too if the hoopla would die down in the meantime but I'm not holding my breath.

 

expound, please.

 

Expound on what? Having the President of the United States resign/impeached because of accusations he is a traitor--how difficult is it to see how that could be harmful to the country? You seem to be a pretty smart guy....shouldn't have to spell out how bad that is.

 

well, I recognize the obvious implications. I just thought you had more insight beyond the obvious. Just curious.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/19/polit...ld-trump-russia-influence/index.html?adkey=bn

 

Why do people like you pretend to be bipartisan and 'wait it out' when everyone here knows including you that if this was Obama with the same implications you would be screaming for impeachment right now also?

This is nothing more than whitewashing a unprecedented level of incompetence and flat out bold faced lies that insult our intelligence.

 

Amazing.

 

I think it would be removal of harm to the country by getting rid of him if he's found guilty. Only good can come from this either way, innocent or otherwise. I mean Trump supporters would have to eat crow on their guy which I guess would be harmful to their ego but IMO the warning signs of Trump being for himself have been plainly visible for at least two or three decades.

 

So if Trump is booted, does that mean Hillary would be immediately put in as the president?

 

Nah. Pence would. But you knew that.

 

So when is the pay-per-view main event?... Mr. Comey Goes to Washington.

"You can't handle the truth. I have MEMOS!"

 

I think that should be interesting. I can't wait for the "Is it your testimony now that you perjured yourself when you said 'a situation where we were told to stop something for a political reason, that would be a very big deal. It’s not happened in my experience' under oath before congress on may 3rd?"

The answer to that question should be pretty fun. He'll either have to admit to perjury or he'll have to say either that his memo wasn't talking about anyone trying to ask him to stop an investigation and that he's never had anyone try to pressure him to stop or change an investigation.

 

If you think that's the only question of interest, I calmly and respectfully suggest that you have more reading to do.
I'd start with the Politico article by Mueller's biographer.

 

HIRONO: So if the Attorney General or senior officials at the Department of Justice opposes a specific investigation, can they halt that FBI investigation?

COMEY: In theory yes.

HIRONO: Has it happened?

COMEY: Not in my experience. It’s not happened in my experience.
(unless the AG or DOJ officials come forward to debunk this, it did not happen)

Here is the perjurious question: "How about the president, did President Trump ask you to?"

BUT it was not asked.

 

Being asked and being told are 2 different things. Most likely, he'll say, "This is what Trump said..."- he didn't order it, but he asked. And it may very well be that Trump is not impeached on some type of obstruction of justice.

But there's a lot you and I don't know. Hopefully, for the good of the country, the truth comes out. It's just difficult thinking that Trump didn't do anything wrong b/c he's shown such incompetence in general.

 

Umm, BTG, here is a fuller excerpt:

HIRONO: So if the Attorney General or senior officials at the Department of Justice opposes a specific investigation, can they halt that FBI investigation?

COMEY: In theory yes.

HIRONO: Has it happened?

COMEY: Not in my experience. Because it would be a big deal to tell the FBI to stop doing something that — without an appropriate purpose. I mean where oftentimes they give us opinions that we don’t see a case there and so you ought to stop investing resources in it. But I’m talking about a situation where we were told to stop something for a political reason, that would be a very big deal. It’s not happened in my experience.

He is specifically referring to the Department of Justice telling him to halt an investigation, not the executive branch. Correct?