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[Obstruction of Justice] Trump asked Comey to end Flynn investigation

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by TheRealist137, May 16, 2017.

  1. Bobbythegreat

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    So the new scandal of the day is that allegedly Comey has been covering up potential attempts by Trump to obstruct justice since February....but of course there's no real proof of it, sounds like just more of the same when it comes to the never ending scandals of the day that never go anywhere.
     
  2. Space Ghost

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    Gotta love the Lefties.

    Comey is first a hero for refusing to prosecute Clinton.
    Comey is then a villain for reopening the investigation.
    Comey then gets promoted to supervillain when he single handily hands Trump the presidency by announcing there are more investigations just before the election. He was of course was coerced and/or blackmailed by Trump and his Russian cronies.
    Now Comey is lauded as the second coming of Barrack Obama by single handily leading to the impeachment of Trump.

    GRRM is then inspired to start yet another incomplete series called Game of the Oval Office. The Mexican Border Walkers are stopped by The Trump Wall. Comey, the President Slayer, is secretly caught fornicating with Hillary Clinton in the statue of Liberty by Barron 'Brn' Trump. The President Slayer then throws Barron Trump off the Statue of Liberty to hide yet another dirty Democrat secret. Hillary then blames the Russians, igniting the War of the Seven Continents. To be continued ....
     
  3. mtbrays

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    This is uninspired fan fiction. Nothing here is likely to encourage, much less sustain, a contrarian erection. Please take the time to revise this draft and get back with us when you're ready to present.
     
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  4. TheRealist137

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    As reported, James Comey wrote the memos so it's easy for Comey to verify whether he did or did not. I feel it would be unlikely that if it was completely fabricated, Comey would let 8 hours go by without summarily dismissing this report.
     
  5. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    He's probably drunk off his ass and starting at his "liberal tears" mug he bought online a few months ago thinking about how many more cups it's gonna take to pass out and hope this is all a dream
     
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    Well it turns out folks may get tired of their bosses BS and constantly shifting blame. IF Comey did record his and Trump's conservations, do you think it would be good or bad for Trump?

    I'm seriously asking your opinion, if Comey did in fact record conversations.
     
  7. Amiga

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    I would also add - if the reporting is correct and Trump asked Comey to stop investigation into Flynn, is @Space Ghost a-ok with that?
     
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  8. Wattafan

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    Not scandals, bombshells.
    Get it right.
     
  9. dandorotik

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    No, because there is always a way to spin it:

    1. It was COMEY'S FAULT for withholding information!
    2. Trump wasn't obstructing- he was innocently just trying to help a friend!
    3. It's the MEDIA's fault! (these are the same people who probably think Woodward and Bernstein were hacks who unfairly targeted Nixon)
    4. WAAHHH! SNOWFLAKES! LIBTARDS! FAKE NEWS! SORE LOSERS! ELECTORAL MAP! HILLARY'S EMAILS! BENGHAZI! OBAMA! SAFE SPACE! DRAIN THE SWAMP! LOCK HER UP! BUILD THAT GNIKCUF WALL! PROTESTORS!

    Trump is clearly acting like an idiot and doing things that the Right would feel are completely unacceptable, traitorous, and evil if the person had a D after their name. But they are deeply entrenched and have to save face. Even most independents think he's been a joke of a POTUS so far. Heck, I'd take Selina Meyer any day over this buffoon.

    But, that's OK. Let them make excuses. Better yet, let's have Comey and Trump both testify before Congress. And get out the popcorn.
     
  10. tallanvor

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    The memo is from February. So Comey was willing to keep this so called 'obstruction of justice' under wraps as long as he kept his job? Or does this mean Comey didn't think Trump was trying to influence the investigation?

    if its the former then Comey is a piece of **** and broke the law by not reporting it. If its the latter then Comey is being dishonest now.
     
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  11. NewRoxFan

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    While the question of why Comey didn't speak up when Trump made the request should be investigated, there are possible explanations but sure, they should be examined. But it is interesting you prefer to focus on that instead of the much more important and troubling allegation that Trump made the request to stop investifgating Flynn and in the process attempted to obstruct justice. Seems clear that both Trump and Comey need to be brought in front of the Senate and House to testify and present any evidence (Comey's written notes; Trump's hinted at recordings) that would help clear up any questions. Also any other witnesses (Pence, Sessions) that can testify and collaborate parts of Comey's claim that Trump asked them to leave the room. And any WH records of meetings, who attended, etc.

    Seems Comey's past statements have been truthful (can't say the same for Trump and other members of his administration). The fact he has documented notes would also tend to be useful (as would any WH recordings and records). The allegations are of such a serious nature that they need to be investigated... whether by the existing congressional bodies or by an independent investigation.
     
  12. tallanvor

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    I have no idea what Trump did, so I wouldn't know what hes to blame for. Nor do you. There are really only two options for Comey and both are bad as I presented earlier. He's either being dishonest or he broke the law to keep his job.

    If i had the guess, the memo is real because it sounds like Trump. Whether it constitutes obstruction of justice is another matter.
     
  13. No Worries

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    I can not wait to hear Trump's Comey recordings. Trump would obviously say "I never said what you can clearly hear me saying on that recording".

    Good times.
     
  14. Amiga

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    Seems pretty normal to me. Comey wasn't comfortable, but didn't want to make a huge deal out of it. However, maybe by habit, or it was important enough that he recorded it and leave it as that (for others to decide if Trump crosses the line at a later time). Legal or not, it's at least abusive of power to ask the FBI director to not investigate a person, especially someone like Flynn with his position and potential impact to Trump WH.
     
  15. No Worries

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    FWIW Trump asking Comey to consider ending the Flynn investigation dances on the ethical line of obstruction. The fact that Comey did not end the Flynn investigation and was fired gives the impression that Trump fired Comey for not playing ball, which is obstruction of justice.

    This happened while Trump was President, so this could be the impeachable offense that we all have been expecting. If the Dems can win the House in 2018 (this is a really big IF), articles of impeachment here we come.
     
  16. tallanvor

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    He didn't want to make a huge deal of what he thinks is obstruction of justice? that's a crime by Comey. You have to report it. Specifically what he should of done if he thought the investigation was being obstructed is tell the Senate and resign.

    No his behavior is not normal. Nothing Comey has ever done is normal or correct.
     
  17. Amiga

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    Wait, so now you know what Comey think? I might have missed it. Did he come out and said there is an obstruction of justice? I understand there is a desire to make Comey look bad, but that's not what's really important here. Trump is the one in power and abused his power at a minimum. Do you agree to at least that?
     
  18. NewRoxFan

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    Again, Comey may have done things at questionable times, but I don't believe anyone has questioned his honesty. And these latest allegations seem believable considering things Trump has said and done previously. So they warrant investigation. If that investigation proves that Trump didn't do this... its to the benefit of Trump and the country. If the allegations are true, the question of why Comey held off on saying anything should be determined. He has already been fired... so don't know what more punishment is appropriate.

    And we agree... I think the memo is real based both on what others have said about Comey habits. And I think we also agree that it sounds like something Trump would do. It would be the second allegation of obstruction of justice. Seems whatever investigative body looking at that should also look at Comey's firing and other questions of wrongdoing that are related to the FBI's investigations.
     
  19. tallanvor

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    IF he doesn't think its obstruction of justice then he is being dishonest now by releasing it as i said earlier.
     
  20. No Worries

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    So you think that Comey should have reported the conversation to his direct report ... Trump?
     

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