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[espn diss]Ranks Robinson above Olajuwon

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by tinman, May 15, 2017.

  1. tinman

    tinman 999999999
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    Clutch City the most disrespected championships of all time.

    Proof:

    http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/nbarank-best1-19367877/lebron-james-kareem-duncan

    7. David Robinson
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    Year: 1987
    Championships added: 1.7

    The Spurs had to wait until 1990 to add Robinson because he had to fulfill his service commitment after attending the Naval Academy. He proved well worth it, winning MVP in 1994-95 and eventually winning a championship in 1999 alongside Duncan.

    8. Hakeem Olajuwon
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    Year: 1984
    Championships added: 1.6

    While most observers would rank Olajuwon over Robinson, the latter's considerable edge in regular-season championships added (1.4 to 0.7) outweighs Olajuwon's healthy playoff advantage (0.6 to 0.5). Whichever your preference, both Olajuwon and Robinson were dominant centers well into the 1990s.
     
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    Williamson JOSH CHRISTOPHER ONLY FAN

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    Ranking Robinson above Olajuwon is dumb by any metric.
     
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    historic media conspiracy
     
  5. theoldblood

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    Olajuwon has always been underrated, even though he destroyed everyone in his path.
     
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    This from the same place that ranked the non-Westbrook OKC Thunder players ahead of the non-Harden Rockets players only to roll with the narrative that Westbrick had no help and the Rockets had amazing players around Harden when the Rockets were beating that ass in the playoffs....they have no credibility to lose.
     
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    Only shallow-minded mouth-breathers look at ESPN to formulate their opinions. I will admit that their basketball coverage is BY FAR the worst of the big 3 sports that they cover though.
     
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  9. tinman

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    Don't understand their 'championships added' metric

    10. Dwight Howard
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    Year: 2004
    Championships added: 1.0

    It's easy to forget now how fierce the debate was between the 18-year-old Howard and Emeka Okafor, fresh off leading UConn to a national championship. While Okafor got off to a faster start, winning Rookie of the Year, Howard soon surpassed him as a three-time Defensive Player of the Year and five-time selection for the All-NBA first team.

    Honorable mention: Allen Iverson (0.9), Patrick Ewing (0.8), Elvin Hayes (0.7).
     
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    Olajuwon taking him to school and dominating the Rockets to a ring is not as impressive as a few more regular season wins. Oh and Robinson won a championship off the back of Duncan right before retiring in a strike shortened season. But whatever.
     
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    Stupid ass ESPN.
     
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    Roftl...but yeah, this is Pelton...
     
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    I've followed Kelvin Pelton for a long time, predating his time at ESPN. I enjoy his articles, but haven't read them much of late since they're behind a paywall.

    As I recall, he's posted on here at least once before to respond to some of the criticism from CF on one of his articles (I don't recall the topic).

    As for this Robinson vs Hakeem debate -- Robinson was a better player in the regular season by most statistical measures. He routinely used to win those IBM player of the year awards back in the 90s, which were formula-based. Hakeem lifted his game in the playoffs, while Robinson often seemed to shrink.
     
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    That choice has got me bamboozled!
     
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    has defeated #2 kareem, #4 shaq #5 magic # 7 robinson in the playoffs
     
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    I really like pelton and I'm sure in an actual debate he would pick hakeem, but this is just his championships added metric, not his opinion. as usual, these things are going to have outliers and are meant to be informative, not definitive. robinson pretty much always "breaks" the advanced stats. his regular season production for the time he was on the floor is quite simply really really good. just because stats can't fully explain that he wasn't really "that" good doesn't mean stats are stupid. we all know hakeem was worth at least 2.0 championships added and things like him being 4th all-time in playoff PER point to that dominance.

    I'm not gonna lie, making up advanced stats to write articles about would pretty much be my dream job.
     
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    Not clicking on that link, because I don't want to give ESPN views, but...they ranked Dwight 10th? TENTH? Only 2 spots after Hakeem? Oh lawd.
     
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