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Simple Poll: Do you Trust his Fitness to Lead

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rashmon, May 15, 2017.

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Do you trust Trump's ability to manage a serious world crisis?

  1. Yes

    9 vote(s)
    12.5%
  2. No

    63 vote(s)
    87.5%
  1. Rashmon

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    I personally belive the man is unfit, unqualified, and too unhinged to manage a little league baseball team but what do you think?
     
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  2. DonnyMost

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    Oh god no.
     
  3. pirc1

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    I think there is something wrong with his mental health, so I do not trust him. However, he is the president of the country, enough people voted for him, so I will accept his decisions for the next four years even if I do not agree with many of them, that's how democracy works. Everyone will have a chance next year and in 2020 to show their disapproval or approval, we will just have to wait and see what happens then.
     
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  4. Jugdish

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    Democracy works more often than every other November.
     
  5. Bobbythegreat

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    I guess the real question is "compared to what?"

    Do I trust Trump? No, but I trust the Secretary of Defense and I think Trump would lean on his expertise and that of those around him which means in many ways I'd trust Trump more than I trusted Obama who always showed contempt for the military and those who know what they hell they are talking about in those situations.
     
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  6. pirc1

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    How exactly do you know he would lean on the secretary of Defense or anyone else for that matter? Is it when he says he knows more than the generals that gave you the confidence that he would listen to the experts? Is it when he could not listen to his advisers when they want him to act less reckless during the election that gave you the confidence?
     
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  7. Bobbythegreat

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    You can easily take that sound byte from the campaign and draw that conclusion or you can take the sound byte from after the election where he said many many times that he planned on leaning on the expertise of his Secretary of Defense and the military advisers around him and draw a different conclusion that is supported by his actions thus far.

    Then again, I know that as a bitter liberal, you have no choice but to view things a certain way so I don't expect any different. This whole Trump thing has really gotten to you guys and talking to you guys about Trump is similar to talking to a white nationalist about Obama....everything you say is clouded by hate so even when you might have a point, it has to be viewed with skepticism.
     
  8. pirc1

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    I am sure you feel proud to have Trump as the president, I do not, it have nothing to do with Liberal or Conservative. I never felt this way with Bush II even though I disagree with him on many issues. I would have no problem if Romney or Mccain, Ryan or most of the conservative leaders. We will see what he does during a crisis, as one will inevitably come up.
     
  9. Invisible Fan

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    Debatable...just because Mattis isn't in Trump's crosshairs doesn't mean he trusts military expertise exclusively. Flynn's replacement is dodging bullets Neo-style from within the WH.

    Besides Trump's cabinet is a glorified assembly of multimillionaire-billionaire businessmen and generals/ex-military. The group he's lacking the most might be what's needed the most right now in terms of stability and operational competence.

    The Knives Are Out for Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster
    In the White House “Game of Thrones for morons,” Steve Bannon is trying to turn the president against his national security advisor.

    Washington Loves General McMaster, But Trump Doesn't
     
  10. Bobbythegreat

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    Well then you're just wrong again. I was VERY anti-Trump from the very beginning. The difference is that I'm not entirely blinded by hate, probably because I didn't really see a better alternative and you convinced yourself that Hillary would have been better. The way I see it, the election was one national embarrassment or the other. Since there wasn't a good option, I just take it as it comes. When Trump does something wrong, I say he's done something wrong but I'm not going to give in to the liberal hysteria that has existed ever since they lost the election. Even on this board we've had people from the left calling for impeachment since day one. Literally day one I believe there was a thread calling for Trump's impeachment....now sure it was written by a stupid person that doesn't understand impeachment, but that doesn't make it any better. We saw exactly that kind of behavior from white nationalists when Obama was elected, but the difference was that was a small group of undesirables and not the mainstream....what we've got going on right now is the mainstream left acting like that. Every single post, every single statement made while blinded by hate. I was hoping that they'd cope with losing the election and possibly move on for the best interest of the country, but that seems to not be a concern at all. Does it suck that Donald F'n Trump is the president? Yes. Would it also suck if Hillary F'n Clinton was the president? Yes.
     
  11. pirc1

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    I never said I want to impeach him unless there is undeniable proof that he colluded with the Russians during the election, I also said I am willing to live with the decisions he made because that's how this country works, but that does not mean I trust he would do the right thing, in fact I am pretty sure if the interest of Trump empire came up against the interest of the United States, he would be on the side of the former.
     
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    No trust on leading a little league team. he won't even throw out the first pitch to a baseball game. He probably can't grip the ball with those little baby fingers. would love an arm wrestle contest trump vs fuller! That said, we have to grind it out and respect the process. The democratic process allows for change after his term. If he took a page from Comrade putin or comrade castro's infinite terms book, then it would be time for serious action.
     
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    When the man is speaking, it's not entirely out of the question that one sentence will completely contradict the one spoken just before. He doesn't seem to have the ability to finish a complete thought that doesn't turn 180 degrees 3 or 4 times. Taking one sound bite into account isn't right...but which ones are we to believe? In this case, do we believe the one where he says he'll lean on his advisers or the one where he says he smarter than they are?
     
  14. dobro1229

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    Reg trusting Trump's military arm -

    Kelley, Mattis, McMaster, etc. all have excellent credentials but even if they are perfect in their roles & functions they are constantly having to navigate the challenges that Trump creates for them with his ignorance, rhetoric, and wishy-washy foreign policies.

    *North Korea is the perfect example. Trump's rhetoric will be all that Kim Jung will listen to, and make decisions based off of no matter what the other leaders say or do following up and cleaning up. Trump complementing Kim Jung only made him feel more embolden that what he's doing is actually working with even a live in person meeting which would be astonishing even to suggest because it validates them and their insane aggressions as means to an end.

    At the end of the day, there is no one that can control Trump's words alone (not even factoring him ordering something stupid that the military can't talk him out of). They can have influence on the fallout, but this all comes back to the words of the President mattering.
     
  15. Rashmon

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    I even kept the voting anonymous to give cover...

    TELLING
     
  16. NewRoxFan

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    Is this the action of a stable person? You can argue about political positions, but this is a question of human decency.

     
  17. Bobbythegreat

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    What's the scandal here? Are we supposed to be upset that the president gave a kid a hat? See this is what I'm talking about, you guys are so unhinged that it's impossible to take anything you say about Trump seriously.... which is bad because there are legitimately bad things that he's doing quite often.

    Every time you go nuts with some story about him having 2 scoops of ice cream or him giving a hat to a kid and spinning them as bad things you just make him a sympathetic character and you cause people to ignore it when you have something legitimate to say given that all they see is a crazy person who has been on a mission to find any excuse to bash the president. Imagine how you'd feel if Obama was still the president and people were bashing him for eating ice cream and giving a kid a hat....

    Stop destroying your credibility.
     
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  18. NewRoxFan

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    This could have also gone in the "Trump versus media (fake news)" discussion topic, it also calls to questions those around Trump, enabling or perhaps exploiting his bizarre takes...

    ‘Fake but accurate’: Another reason to worry about decision-making at the White House
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ng-at-the-white-house/?utm_term=.ffe5be345b3a
     
  19. Bobbythegreat

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    To expand on this, the reason I'm telling you guys to stop destroying your credibility is because you need to learn a lesson from how Republicans treated Bill Clinton. Since day 1 they were out to get him and it was a scandal a day until they found one that had legs....him being legitimately guilty of obstruction of justice and perjury. Of course by then, no one cared about anything he did or was accused of doing because the public was desensitized to allegations of wrongdoing so he got away with it. You guys are doing the EXACT same thing with Trump. If you want people to care if you ever find a scandal with legs to b**** about, then you need to stop this petty BS about ice cream and ball caps.
     
  20. Astrodome

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    It was posted in a fake news thread hours ago. If you weren't so busy posting crap you might have seen it. I am beginning to think you are a paid shill posting only Trump hate. Slow down occasionally.
     

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