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Will Trump Finish his Term?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by SamFisher, May 9, 2017.

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Will Trump be President until January 2021?

  1. Yes

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  2. NO

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    64.3%
  1. bigtexxx

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    ...meanwhile democrats are getting violent trying to stifle free speech in Berkeley.

    such hypocrites
     
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  2. generalthade_03

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    I'm just telling the truth bro, no need to get your panties in a wad.
     
  3. across110thstreet

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    Such hyperbole. violent political protesters and teenage hooligans should be arrested and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
     
  4. NewRoxFan

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    Interesting to follow Mark Salter's twitter. Salter was McCain's aid and speechwriter.






    Plus this retweet of Bill Kristol (conservative commentator):
     
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  5. bigtexxx

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    oh, so you don't like being judged by the lowest common denominator of your support base?

    Why isn't that hypocritical of you?
     
  6. conquistador#11

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    a guy with that big of an ego will never resign. he will take everyone down if he has to
     
  7. ima_drummer2k

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    I think he'll finish his first term and not run for a 2nd.

    Don't be so quick to assume the Dems will win back seats in 2018. They have a hard time getting out the vote, especially in non-presidential elections.
     
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  8. No Worries

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    Trump never settles lawsuits; it is a sign of weakness. But it appears that he settles all lawsuits.

    Trump is a great businessman who has the Midas touch. As long as you do not count the four bankruptcies or all of the failed branded products.

    Trump can resign and then just later claim that he did not. I do not see any inconsistencies here. Trump is full blown delusional so it is all good.
     
  9. A_3PO

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    Dems will gain in the House in 2018. It's almost a guarantee.

    The Senate is another story.
     
  10. No Worries

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    Now that the Useful Idiot fire Comey, I think the odds have double that the Useful Idiot will be impeached.

    I am personally holding out for Trump to be found guilty of colluding with an enemy foreign power to hack the 2016 Presidential Election. That way, Trump can finish his first term in prison.
     
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  11. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    It's true what you say, and it isn't fair: a lot of us keep judging the GOP by its lowest common denominator: the President of the United States. :(
     
  12. CCorn

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    I think he finishes his first term. Now how much work he actually does, who knows.

    I'm still confident he will start a weekly Hugo Chavez style tv show.
     
  13. Brando2101

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    It's nowhere close to a guarantee. It's actually very unlikely. You're more likely to see change in republican house members losing their primaries to new anti-trump republicans.

    It's estimated that you would need to see the kind of support for a single party that was last seen in the great depression to overcome gerrymandered districts. Republicans will control the house until at least 2022 but Democrats could win the senate in 2020.

    The good thing is that it will become more apparent that the GOP is no the majority party. You have the democrats, republicans and freedom party. Republicans are going to have to start working with Democrats on issues in order to get stuff passed that isn't going to piss off the nation. Hopefully the Senate will work with Democrats on health care adjustments to improve obamacare and not overhaul the system and kill medicate. Maybe house republicans would be happier if it was renamed to the America the Great Healthcare Super #1 bill.
     
  14. Nook

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    Has he started building his bunker yet?
     
  15. Deckard

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    I think we are going to see a groundswell of anger in 2018 leading to an outpouring of votes for Democratic candidates in both the House and Senate races. Anger by independents, by moderate Republicans freaked out by what's happening in the White House (and the obvious reluctance of House Republicans, as well as some Republican Senators, to have a serious investigation of the 2016 Election/Trump/Russian connection), and Democrats getting out and voting in the highest numbers for a mid-term election in many years. I think we will see numbers comparable to those of the 2008 election, and possibly more.

    Some folks are in for a surprise, in my humble opinion. Whether this anger will filter down to the state races remains to be seen. I certainly hope so.
     
  16. across110thstreet

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    Apologies for any confusion if you may have felt judged, my post you quoted was directed towards Trump supporters.

    You did miss a chance though, to correct the poster immediately correlating students at a HBCU as "Obama's children"





    Obama is half black.
     
  17. Brando2101

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    2008 was before redistricting. You would need an estimated 2-3 high percentage points for Democrats to take the House. It's unlikely Trump's approval rating will ever get as low as W. Bush's because of the kind of base he has. As of 3 weeks ago, 96% of people who said they voted for him saying they would do so again and his overall approval rating with Republicans is still high. Also, people have become more and more partisan since 2008. It's hard to imagine the next time you'll see a democrat win as many conservative states as Clinton did in 1996 or a republican win as many liberal states as the republicans did in 80, 84 and 88.

    TLDR: Gerrymandering will prevent democrats from taking the house and many republicans would not vote for a democrat on principle due to increased hostile partisan trends.


    It's also likely democrats will actually lose Senate seats in 2018 when you just look at the numbers. GOP has so few seats up for re-election (8) and the ones that are up are very safely red except for Nevada. You are more likely to see an incumbent lose in the GOP primary. The Democrats/Indepedents just have so many spots up (25) and many are in conservative states. There are general shifts in states themselves that could overcome unpopularity with the president or even congress. I don't even understand how Montana, North Dakota, Missouri Indiana and West Virginia have democratic senators. All of these states went for Trump and became more republican than they were in 2012 along with every republican won state except Utah and Texas.


    The other consideration is that Mike Pence becoming president would calm and appease many conservative voters. We'll see if that happens.
     
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    I'm aware of our political history. I think you might underestimate what I believe will be the righteous anger of the American people. I think a political "wave" is coming, and it is going to crash against the Republican Party. In my humble opinion.
     
  20. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Yep 45% did not vote, how many of that will vote Trump, I would bet it is very low.

    The last charge of the angry racist white man, is all this is about for him and his supporters.

    DD
     
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