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Trump the Gigantic Waste of Taxpayer Money: $20 million for Mar-a-Lago vacations in first 100 days

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by TheRealist137, Apr 29, 2017.

  1. TheRealist137

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    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    As soon as he's black. o_O
     
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    or a democrat.
     
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    Can you provide some information on this 89 billion saved?
     
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    Not surprisingly, you have to dig around a bit.
    Here's one article.
    Here's two.
    Here's three.
    I did a bit of digging around and couldn't find the article that claimed 89 million.
    However, I did find one for 2.83 B, (bills,etc), another for 1B (presidential 747's), and another for 775 M (F-35's.)
    Pretty easy to find if you look around.
     
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    Don't believe that BS. All PR. Those cost will be back in the final cost of those.
     
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    [​IMG]
     
  9. Rocket River

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    How much of that 20 million goes into his pocket

    Rocket River
     
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    But then you wouldn't care
     
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    And this one casts doubt even on the F-35 savings claim...

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/donald-trump-f-35-cost-234719

    btw, the $89B claim comes from a right wing organization attributing to a number of regulations ended including those related to education, fair pay, safe workplace, clean water, etc. And the organization even appear to cast doubts on their own claims in their paper with lots of "wiggle" terms like "could produce" and "the ability to produce". In addition, the paper ignores any financial or other benefit of the regulations.
    https://www.americanactionforum.org/insight/fiscal-benefits-cra-regulatory-reform/
     
  12. Wattafan

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    Thanks for that - couldn't find it in my search.
    Sure, the language is based on projections, but surely they are ballpark huh? (And not zero)
    One thing is for sure, Trump is definitely looking to save huge chunks of taxpayer dollars during his tenure.
     
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    Doubtful.
     
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    It sure is bad for optics I suppose but I cant even care to start pointing out Trump hypocrisy as it seems to happen every day.

    What really has me confused is about him not taking a salary. First of all, he can't refuse the salary. He is being paid monthly, which he said he would donate to the treasury. Of course, as expected, he has provided no proof of anything. I could care less if he did or didnt take the salary, but why does he set himself up for failure? He is a master of tripping over his own feet.
     
  15. NewRoxFan

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    All republican candidates will say they will cut taxes. And many do. Heck, many Democrat candidates as well. But the unanswered questions are "to who?", and how much?, and "at what cost?". Do we want to risk future health issues by reducing/eliminating clean water regulations? Do we want to risk future generation's educational levels by reducing/eliminating educational standards? Do we risk economic stability by reducing/eliminating financial regulations? Are "lower taxes" worth it? The vague study by the right wing political organization you touted the $89B in taxpayer savings doesn't look at or answer these questions.
     
  16. Wattafan

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    Thing is, Trump is not just "saying" - he is pro-active.
    What the final details are in how he does it is yet to be seen - hence my disdain at the panic displayed by democrat supporters..
     
  17. NewRoxFan

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    Not exactly... Trump has aggressively gone after reducing / eliminating regulations. We will have to see if the deregulation provides tax payers real benefits and whether they will create other, bigger problems. We do know what happened last time banks and other financial institutions had free reign...
     
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    lol at how wattafan completely put the liberals on their heels in this thread.

    excellent work, wattafan
     
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    No he just moved the goal posts. It's entirely reasonable question the time and money spent at Mar a Lago without factoring in those other "deals" which are questionable in number and Trump's involvement. Trump's time at Mar a Lago is 100% his own doing.
     
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    Its ok, bigtexxx needs a safe place to hide after being embarrassed in his own posts touting various Trump fiction like "Obama bugged Trump tower" were soundly debunked. Though funny he praises a poster that touted a right wing report that vaguely invented huge tax savings from deregulations (a report he couldn't even google).
     

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