1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Bill O'Brien out?

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by J.R., Jan 1, 2017.

  1. RasaqBoi

    RasaqBoi Member

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2007
    Messages:
    17,079
    Likes Received:
    20,707
    Lance Z just said o brien is not too involved with this draft. This is most likely his last year unless he has a great record n they reach a higher level.
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    68,562
    Likes Received:
    32,039
    I see that as a good thing. Dump BOB, give the job to Vrabel and have him bring in an offensive coordinator that knows what he's doing.
     
    RasaqBoi likes this.
  3. HR Dept

    HR Dept Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2012
    Messages:
    6,792
    Likes Received:
    1,223
    I was about to throw a fit, but this makes a lot of since. I can get with it if it plays out that way.
     
  4. Buck Turgidson

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2002
    Messages:
    100,288
    Likes Received:
    102,375
    Well, that possibly adds interesting context to the "OB not happy" talk.

    "Welcome back my friends, to the show that never ends...."
     
    RasaqBoi likes this.
  5. No Worries

    No Worries Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 1999
    Messages:
    32,786
    Likes Received:
    20,555
    Hard to believe a rookie QB will have much if any effect in win/losses on OBie's last contract year with the Texans.

    McNair stuck with Kubiak long past the point he should. OBie is a better coach than Kubiak, so I don't see McNair giving up on OBie. McNair has publicly said that he values stability in his key appointments.. McNair cites the Steelers as the case for point for stability.
     
    #845 No Worries, Apr 27, 2017
    Last edited: Apr 27, 2017
  6. zeeshan2

    zeeshan2 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2013
    Messages:
    55,579
    Likes Received:
    65,367
  7. HillBoy

    HillBoy Member

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2003
    Messages:
    8,926
    Likes Received:
    2,334
    I agree about McNair and those who keep whining like b****y little girls about changing owners need to go and Google "Bud Adams". Now as for BoB well he's sort made his bed and now has to sleep in it. I heard Lance Z also and I agree about him (BoB) needing to do more this season in order to save his job. It's put up or shut up time.
     
    Bobbythegreat likes this.
  8. Nimo

    Nimo Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2012
    Messages:
    13,392
    Likes Received:
    7,056
    I was reading until I saw Sean Jones.
     
  9. J.R.

    J.R. Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2008
    Messages:
    114,019
    Likes Received:
    175,717
    Snow Villiers likes this.
  10. Hey Now!

    Hey Now! Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2000
    Messages:
    14,526
    Likes Received:
    5,526
    Except - if BOB is unhappy and on his way out.... why did the team trade Brock Osweiler if, as reported, that was a move made without BOB's involvement?
     
  11. Buck Turgidson

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2002
    Messages:
    100,288
    Likes Received:
    102,375
    I was strictly talking about BoB not being involved in the draft.
     
  12. Hey Now!

    Hey Now! Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 20, 2000
    Messages:
    14,526
    Likes Received:
    5,526
    Right; a claim I would term dubious because, as I cited, there are examples very recently of BOB very much being in control of personnel. I suppose a split could have deepened, post-Osweiler - but the prevailing wisdom is that BOB was the driver of ousting Brock.
     
  13. JayZ750

    JayZ750 Member

    Joined:
    May 16, 2000
    Messages:
    25,432
    Likes Received:
    13,390
    From O'brien's perspective it might though. If O'brien feels like he's got the QB of the future right there, and the world feels like it... say they draft Mahomes, Watson or Savage plays pretty solidly, it makes O'brien happier and less b**** and grumpy and both more likely to want to stay and less likely to piss off McNair.

    McNair wants stability, but he seems to also want guys who he can work with and respect him.
     
  14. Nook

    Nook Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    59,806
    Likes Received:
    132,380
    Yes it is... no accountability at the top. The guys on XM NFL talk about it all the time.

    A non competitive out of touch owner.

    The owners son that lacks ability.

    A GM that is an expert at shifting blame.

    It isn't the worst job in the NFL but not an organization that coaches will line up to go to. It is an organization content to go 9-7 and boast of winning the worst division in football.
     
    Buck Turgidson and SWTsig like this.
  15. Mr. Clutch

    Mr. Clutch Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2002
    Messages:
    46,550
    Likes Received:
    6,132
    Yeah, and the rumor is O'Brien likes Mahomes, so we'll see.
     
  16. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    68,562
    Likes Received:
    32,039
    Given what O'Brien has wanted at QB, I don't think it's a good thing for him to get the guy he wants. Also, it's not about O'Brien being happy, he's the guy on the hot seat looking to get fired if he doesn't start doing something to justify his position.
     
  17. mario_v

    mario_v Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    4,262
    Likes Received:
    3,401
    I just wish rick smith would just go away. The problem all stems from him.
     
  18. Nook

    Nook Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    59,806
    Likes Received:
    132,380
    The timing makes sense to me. O'Brien has given himself an out to future employers if the Texans draft/signings don't pan out.

    O'Brien can now argue to future employers that he isn't responsible for the Texans QB problems and as a result never had a chance to pick the players needed for his offense to flourish.

    Rick Smith is an ass kissing POS GM that is an expert at playing politics... apparently O'Brien is two... so the tension is natural. Both of them are blaming the other for the teams mediocre success.

    Hopefully when Grandpa McNair dies, his sketchy son will decide to sell the team and take the quick cash.
     
  19. Bobbythegreat

    Bobbythegreat Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2013
    Messages:
    68,562
    Likes Received:
    32,039
    He makes himself look like an idiot by doing things like this especially when he's had the team pick up awful QB's in the past AND given that "his offense" has produced less and less every season. He might get another job after the Texans fire him, but it'll likely be his last chance as a head coach in the NFL. Honestly he's probably better off going back to college.
     
  20. Nook

    Nook Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2008
    Messages:
    59,806
    Likes Received:
    132,380
    I agree it makes him look like a fool to people following the situation closely. However 12 months from now? He has planted the narrative that his failures are the result of management and ownership.

    I wouldn't hire O'Brien, but the NFL loves to recycle coaches. I wouldn't be shocked if he is coaching another team in the NFL in 12 months.

    Having said that, O'Brien is arrogant to a fault and has an ego that really isn't justified based on his track record. His offensive "system" is a sham.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now