Pentagon: US dropped largest non-nuclear bomb in Afghanistan

That's over 8 mil a person. Maybe we can offer them 200k and a job and maybe they would stop being terrorist. 8 mil a person doesn't seem effective.

 

That money is spent already and dropping that bomb won't cost more money. They already have more made than they can use. It shouldn't just be about the death count but about the facilities as well. Was this a very large, intricate and vitally important resource? If Yes then that is a great thing to take out. If it's just a random bunker than it might not have been worth it. Trump hasn't seemed to change our strategy against ISIL aside from removing the president from oversight which is stupid.

Also, that was a funny post.

 

I'm not sure you can get a proper body count (didn't we learn that lesson in 'Nam anyway?) after something like this. I would imagine there's a whole lot of bodies that are simply not there anymore to count.

 

They were probably firmly against it.

 

Yeah? Why don't you look around this board at all the "liberals" cheering for military strikes. Why don't you look at yourself, or educate me, since you think I need learning so much. Make the case for all this recent aggression, which you probably like, right? Or do you agree we're boodthirsty killers?

People freak when three or four people get killed by a nutjob in Belgium or somewhere, but they pop a boner whenever we kill faceless people is some cool way.

Remember Iraq War 2? What was that about again? "WMD's"? Like . . . chemical weapons? And what is the Syria thing about? Like . . . chemical weapons? Iraq was a big big big mistake and a total war crime when we invaded a soveriegn country for no reason at all, killed countless people and spent trillions of dollars. But this time, don't worry, it's not a mistake: we're stacked with evidence about chemical weapons in Syria. And you're going to post it.

Now listen to this Democrat chickenhawk blithely indifferent to escalating military tension:


Yes, **** both the Republican and the Democrats.

 

God, you are an idiot, with all respect due. You don't know a g..damned thing about me. You're "speaking" to a Vietnam War protester back in the late '60's and an ardent liberal who happens to have an interest in all things military. Why? Because I grew up with a WWII Navy vet for a father, who saw combat in the Pacific, in a neighborhood built for families getting home loans through the GI Bill, a great example of government helping its people. That's something the current idiot in the White House could care less about. So a royal **** you headed your way.

Is this forum where idiots go to play? Apparently.

 

There's a balance and some folks don't get it.

 

Would you prefer to lose lives sending people in to do the job instead? That's the alternative.

 

Well Hillary for instance. I would not call her a liberal. She was hot for the Libya war which created the failed state which saw their weapons routed to jihadis in North Africa and Syria. I know not really a war because few if any Americans were killed.

https://www.aol.com/article/news/20...mbing-syrian-airfields-hours-before/22030847/

At Thursday's summit, Clinton said, in part, "Assad has an air force, and that air force is the cause of most of these civilian deaths...I really believe that we should have and still should take out his airfields and prevent him from being able to use them to bomb innocent people and drop sarin gas on them."

For more "liberal" praise for war.

What makes this latest attack new is that rather than allegedly targeting terrorist sites of ISIS and Al Qaeda, it targets the Syrian government – something Obama threatened to do in 2013 but never did.

Leading Congressional Democrats – including Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi – quickly praised Trump’s bombing while raising concerns about process. Hours before the bombing commenced, as it was known Trump was planning it, Hillary Clinton – who has been critical of Obama for years for not attacking Assad – appeared at an event and offered her categorical support for what Trump was planning:

https://theintercept.com/2017/04/07...edia-and-bipartisan-praise-for-bombing-syria/

 

I just listened to ABC NIghtly News. They were practically orgasming as the mother of all bombs we are led to believe f'ed some Talibans. The dramatic voice work was notable by the Martha Radatz and the rest of the "reporters". Got to hand to them they have real talent in making their voices sound ominous, yet exciting.

 

I am no Hillary shill
I still remember SUPER PREDATOR and the Crime Bill of 94
Libya was a major issue for me as well

I still want to know how many died total
I mean if 36 ISIS folx out of 40 dead . . .. I don't like it but can live with it
but
36 ISIS folx out of 2000 dead . .. . well . .. . that I would not like at all and could not condone it.

Rocket River

 

Wonderful. You have yet another opportunity to continue your obsession with Hillary Clinton, who would merely be about 10,000 times better for the issues you allegedly care about than the fool in the White House and his Far-Right Republican Party, who are as obsessed as you, but with other things now. They've put Hillary Clinton in the rear view mirror.

They've moved on to new, more enticing obsessions. Like destroying the social programs that protect the poor in this country, pissing on women's rights, giving away billions to their billionaire supporters, giving away more billions to the insurance companies, hell, giving the Lead Fool in the White House his own tax breaks, although how can one tell? He has yet to produce his income tax returns. I could make a long list, if I had an interest in repeating what I've posted here many times. Mr. trump and his merry fools from the White working class, seduced by propaganda spewed by the Alt-Right, by Vladimir Putin for his own interests with help from his tool, WikiLeaks, and every other mad extremist source that tells them that their troubles will be over if they will just believe. So they do, and truth be damned. Have fun, glynch. When things get bad enough in America, you can always move to your paradise on Earth, Venezuela.

 

Hillary is trash, and Trump is too. But lets face the facts here Deckard, our country royally ****ed up by nominating these Ren and Stimpy candidates to run in the first place. The only people who felt good about voting for either of these scumbags are the type of people who treat politics like team sports and those people are taking a giant **** on this country whether they know it or not.

As someone who identifies as a fiscal conservative and a social liberal, I don't find many candidates out there who really support my views these days to begin with. I'm certainly not someone who votes on party lines just because "go team", either. I don't think there has ever been a time in my life where I have been more apathetic towards our election process than I am now. I reckon there are a great many folks who are in the same boat, too.

 

I disagree with your opinion of Ms. Clinton, who has been an ardent supporter of women's rights her whole life, but I respect it. I was an independent myself in my 20's, and then decided that there were really only two political parties that win enough elections in this country to matter, and I ought to belong to the party that more reflects my own values, so I'm a proud Democrat. Yes, the party is seriously flawed, but fundamentally it cares about all the people of this country, not just the One Percent, and not just fantasies dreamed up by the other political party, mainly to line the pockets of their big contributors, while blatantly lying about their agenda. People who aren't satisfied with how things are should work for change. Don't like the direction of the Democratic Party? Join it. Go to precinct meetings, county conventions. Get involved at the state level. Work to elect the people that reflect your values in the primaries, then work to get them elected. Contribute your own money to help. In other words, work to change it. Just my humble opinion.

 

Money doesn't change anything, it just empowers the very people (the one percent as you say) to stay in power. Meanwhile, it doesn't seem to matter who gets elected because what happens is always the same. We just print more money, raise the debt ceiling, disagree on budget proposals, start more wars to make up for it, point fingers at the other side of the fence when **** doesn't work out, then tax more, then rinse and repeat.

Our government has turned into a problem child that we keep dumping money into and nothing comes out of it. Social programs, even with the best of intentions are about to become defunct very soon. Social security is a ponzi scheme and maybe folks your age will still see some dividends payed back from it but our youth will likely end up paying for it. Our healthcare system is going to collapse very soon unless we see significant changes made to keep it afloat. The costs for getting a college education continue to increase while more and more students are getting buried under mounds of debt before they even take a job, which most likely will not pay enough to counter said debt and not lay any significant foundation for starting a family.

To sum up my thoughts on all of this it basically comes down to this...

Our government cares about only one thing. Keeping themselves elected. They don't care about you, me, or anyone else. They just care about keeping that $800,000 condo they have in the suburbs of D.C, which are where the highest concentration of wealthy people currently live in our country. When it comes down to it, both parties do the same exact thing even though they "claim" to represent different values. Here is what our government has been doing for the last 20 years as it stands today...

Tax
Spend Money
Print Money
Increase Debt Ceiling
Run out of money? Hey!!! Let's start more wars guys!!!
Rinse, wash, repeat.

This **** never ends, Deckard. A person your age should know this by now, though. If you aren't disgusted with our current political climate then you will likely never understand.

 

Anyone who thinks Hillary is trash and thinks she would've been a trash president is TRASH themselves. Look at her resume. She literally was the most qualified candidate to be president of all-time. Instead we elected an incompetent, horribly unqualified, racist/sexist/xenophobe. Nice going America! Your not so brilliant educational system is showing its true colors.

 

It did the job. It changed the narrative away from Trump the incompetent to hey he is tall in the saddle and can drop a big bomb. It appeals to war lovers of both parties and those who spend their days worried about terrorism and ignorantly this will make them safe and this somehow Makes America Great Again

 

Don't know about the size of Putin's hands, but Russia trots out the Father of All Bombs four times bigger than our non nuke. Maybe they can drop it in Syria on ISIS. That would be immoral, illegal and a violation of international law and human decency because they are Russians and do not enjoy American exceptionalism. Right?

http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-the-father-of-all-bombs-russias-answer-to-the-moab-2017-4

Maybe we can take some money away from the school lunch program and start a crash program to make our bomb bigger than their bomb.

 

I think she would have been a fine president but I don't think the modern narrative would have been kind to her. You are looking at the Right getting more nasty and more outrageous as a response and the country driven further apart. Endless investigations by the House looking for anything they can do to impeach her and block any policy she tried to put into place.

None of that would be her fault though. In a way the Right needed Trump to win to shine a light on what would actually happen if they get their way.

Also we would have a highly boosted Right wing media complex with Trump forming the media empire he was obviously setting up this past year upon his loss. This would have led to more progaganda infiltrating the minds of our friends on the right.

I'm certainly not glad that Trump won, but we were going to have to face the facts at some point that a monster was being birthed on the right and one way or another Hillary was going to be victim to it. I just don't see a world where she could have had a productive forward progressing White House with the power of the Right in the House, Senate, and Media that would have made her presidency a complete nightmare of obstruction and propaganda overload.