If any strike is launched, we'll be in uncharted territory. Nobody knows what the North Korean regime will do. The entire spectrum of "nothing" to "annihilates 20 million people in the area of Seoul" is in play.
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Typically, you manage to ignore the fact that North Korea tested its first atomic weapon in 2006, during the George W. Bush administration. I guess you can't help yourself. You are so incredibly biased that truth has little meaning. North Korea was sold Pakistan's nuclear weapons secrets, which they obtained from China, in the late 1990's. Pakistan has admitted it. They blame their top nuclear scientist, although nothing has happened to the man, as far as I know. I wouldn't put it past the regime at the time to have allowed it to happen. NK started trying to develop nuclear weapons back in the 1960's, when they asked the Soviet Union, then the Chinese, for help in doing so. The two countries refused. For decades NK worked the "problem," getting reactors from the Soviets, but not bomb technology. Several Presidents declined to take military action, presidents from both parties. Yet you are simply a shill for the far Right. Do facts hold no interest for you?
How they test an atomic weapon in 2006 ? I thought Clinton ended their nuclear weapons program? Clinton thought so too As far as Bush goes, HE said publicly that North Korea was violating the agreement Clinton signed and developing nuclear weapons but I agree he could of done more.
Once the US starts pulling its citizens from South Korea to Japan on helicopters thats when you'll know sht about to go down
It seems like the North Korean regime's legitimacy is derived, in part, from its antagonistic stance against the west. If you read any accounts from tourists who've been there, they remark upon the constant chiding of "Yankee imperialists" and reminders of how the DPRK is always at the ready to defend the homeland. They've been promising an attack to their people for decades and will have to make a choice when push comes to shove: retaliate and save face or do nothing? My real curiosity is whether or not they'd even say anything if they didn't retaliate. It's the most closed society on earth and there is no information other than state propaganda. If they wanted to not respond, couldn't they just not tell people about a strike on Yongbyon? I know there is a black market for information like DVDs in North Korea, so I'm sure news would eventually get out that they were attacked and didn't do anything, but I wonder how long it would take and what would happen in the interim. I don't know if Kim Jong-Un is untouchable when the party is intertwined with the Kim family, but you'd have to think that some of the generals would rather kill him and figure the rest out later instead of risk all-out war that they know they would lose.
Dialogue and diplomacy. I know it's extremely difficult and hard work, but we got the greatest head-of-state negotiator who hire only the best.
History has shown us over and over that this does not work. You cause change in foreign powers when you create circumstances that make the government and the people realize they are better off re-entering the regional and global culture like East Germany and Russia. You need a carefully thought out an planned process for Korean Reunification. Taking out leaders or supporting uprisings against a dictator don't change the culture of abuse and we've seen that over and over around the world. You must work with China to defeat North Korea or history will repeat itself. The "Korean War" was really a war between the United States and China and going to war against China is not something you can win. They will throw too many soldiers in the mix and they can cripple the US economy with sanctions against American companies that operate there. Too much is made of China manufacturing and not enough of all the other type of US businesses/firms that have financial ties to China and Trump knows that. The way to beat china is to corner them economically so their president is pushed by the party to turn against North Korea. (In My Opinion) if Kim loses China then the political support he has within the North Korean government will wane. North Korea knows it has some mobility against the United States in the Pacific but they are royally ****ed if China turns against them. They not only have a huge amount of arms that can animate NK from every direction but they have a land border for ground troops. It's likely the Chinese have better intelligence in NK that we do and they would know exactly where to hit. At the end of the day, trade agreements with the west and east need to make it apparent that losing the political stance against the west with NK is bad for business. Win the China Democratic Socialist Party, Save the World.
This is complicated. The US was the first to start backing out of commitments in the agreement when the GOP took congress in the election immediately following the deal's passage. The US didn't hold up its end of the bargain and North Korea backed away from it. NK flat out said that they would begin enrichment again if the US didn't upload their end of the deal and they didn't. I think the criticism of Clinton was that he negotiated a deal without getting Republican support but it's not fair to criticize him that the deal itself didn't work since it was abandoned almost right after it was signed. It's a lesson that President's can expect to keep party control in congress. I guess you can be confident when you can lose the nationwide popular vote in the house and still hold a large majority in the house which is what happened in 2012 what will happen in 2018.
Having had a Korean girlfriend for most of my 20s, North Korea-watching has been a hobby of mine she got me into and that I stayed with long after we broke up. Try googling "Juche Study Groups" if you want a laugh. These are people all around the world that study the ideology of the cult of the Kims and pledge loyalty to the DPRK. Also, the official site of the North Korean gov't used to be hosted in Japan because they had no internet access there. But all jokes aside, North Korea is a completely dystopian nightmare. It's hard to fully grasp just how dysfunctional of a society it has become since the end of WW2. One thing that isn't said often is how many South Koreans don't want to re-unfiy, because they don't want to inherit a generation of poverty and rebuilding as they saw Germany do when it absorbed the DDR.
NK tested its first nuclear weapon during Bush's watch and he did nothing worth mentioning. God, you're boring.
The time to act is long before they start testing their nuclear weapons. At that point it's way too late.
I wasn't serious. It was a reference to the Bay of Pigs. Honestly when it comes to foreign policy there is no definitive best way to handle every situation be it through diplomacy or through military action. The US foreign policy the last 25 years has been poor.
Kim Jung does what he does for nothing but self preservation as a leader of his country. Killing his own brother shows how far he's willing to go to stay in power. Keep that in mind with all of his decision making. What Kim Jung can't do is force the hands of other Asian countries to turn their backs and either allow the US and NATO or even help themselves in going to war with NK as a response to military attack by Kim. So I think Kim Jung would hesitate military action that forces other countries to join the side of the US. That's why I think it's important to the US that we don't strike first and continue to gain backing of our allies. Dude won't do crap if he knows China AND Japan will aid the US in removing him and bringing war to his country.
You surprise me. I totally agree. Sadly, that didn't happen, regardless of who's fault it is, and there's plenty of blame to go around, starting with the Soviet Union, China, and Pakistan. But that ship has sailed. I certainly don't want a war on the Korean peninsula, one that could quickly spread, or a war anywhere else, for that matter. Pandora's Box has been opened by George W. Bush in the Middle East, and the nation states that have directly supported North Korea, economically, militarily, and scientifically. So we're stuck in a complex, very expensive mess. We need to avoid war if at all possible. If we can't, we have to make sure we can handle the consequences. I'm not optimistic and wish I could be. I have two sons that are of draft age and I've seen that story before.
I think the US should invade North Korea, find their Pottery Barn, go in and break everything, and then leave the country.
