I think United has already abandoned the "overbooking" excuse. Furthermore it was a United ticket. United takes the responsibility for its partner airlines. That's why it ultimately flowed upto the United CEO and not the Republic Airlines CEO... an airlines I believe previously filed for bankruptcy.
If I didn't do it I wouldn't be tackled. I'd civilly explain to the cop this woman is bat **** crazy and I don't have a purse on me. You're trying to make a point but assume I'd run after being falsely accused or that all cops are inherently gung-ho. Nice try. Can an UBER driver kick you out of their car?
I'm having a tough time buying what she's selling. For instance, she says: So she's claiming that, according to federal regulations, a crew must be flown to the airport? They can't be driven? Not even when the flight is scheduled to leave the next day and the drive would be less than 5 hours? It's hard to believe.
The court date was set for today, but his lawyer had to request an extension, because he got bumped from his return flight, as he took the $800 this time.
That's true. But again United did not hurt that guy. They didn't call security and ask for security to come rough up this guy.
Let me make a couple points. First, if this guy didnt have his tempertantrum meltdown and the videos were not thrown on social media, nobody would have cared one bit about the plight of these 4 people. Not me. Not you. Not anyone. Nobody would be arguing policies except the 4 people removed. This is nothing more than media sensation. People are screwed over by airlines everyday much much worse. Secondly, the only thing accomplished was this guy getting a payout and for airlines reevaluating their policies on what they consider "boarding". Lastly, few people know their "rights". Do you really think you have a right to sit there and argue with the crew and say "I know my rights, I dont have to get up?" Do you really think the crew fully understands their own policies? Do you really think every airline is going to have the same policies? My sympathy factor will quickly drop if you are disrupting my departure because you think you know your rights. Take your drama off the plane and go figure it out in the concourse. Fighting the crew while on the plane is the wrong thing to do considering the crew does not need a dramatic justification to have security boot your ass once asked. So yes, the ability to win a court case is what matters, not your feeble attempt to justify your right to stay on the plane. When the crew brings in security to take your ass off the plane, get off. Just as there is no justification ever to resist arrest.
It's a real world situation, but I was trying to use a PG example to illustrate the principle. But since that's not good enough for you, here's the R-rated example. Years ago, a married woman was having an affair. The husband caught them in the act. The woman cried "rape", and the husband killed her lover. According to your logic, that woman wasn't involved in her lover's death. She was ultimately sentenced to 5 years in prison.
Stock is stable now. I bought in the $50s anyways. Could move it easily. I'm not biased ... It's my opinion. Sorry if I don't want to join your lynch mob to sink a solid company. I also advocate for ALK and LUV. feel free to choose those airlines also.
When the guy runs back onto the plane he is breaking the law. When he defies an order, he is breaking the law. According to your logic, IF a guy on the no- fly list is allowed to board and then Homeland Sec calls the gate saying to remove a passenger ... if that guys ass cheeks hit the seat, he's locked in and can't be touched.
People need to seriously stop editorializing on the encounter. He wasn't beaten, slammed, etc. He was pulled out of his seat, and in his resistance/struggle, he fell and his head hit an armrest. This split his lip open. There's no confirmation he was knocked unconscious or had a concussion, etc. His resistance was strange (the shrieking, flailing, etc). His running back on the plane saying "I need to go home", and then clutching the galley curtain muttering "just kill me" was even stranger. I cannot draw a straight line between what happened to him and how he behaved during and after the incident.
Well he did go oddly silent immediately after his head hit the armrest and while being dragged away. Doubtful this was some full on passive resistance mode.
In order to determine whether or not he's breaking the law at that point, don't you have to take into account his mental status? He was just beaten, knocked unconscious, and dragged off the plane. Most people would agree that he'd been traumatized. Doesn't that depend on whether or not the order is legal? For instance, if a male flight attendant orders a female passenger to join the mile high club with him, is she breaking the law by refusing? Wrong. If the guy is on the no-fly list, then he's an automatic safety risk and can be removed.
should have sold it and then bought the dips then. it's probably going to continue to go lower so yea that's my stock tip unless you just like to hold and wait. I don't have a lynch mob, I just like when things are done properly. everything done by United was not with protocol and it took this guy to be beat and deboarded unlawfully for everybody to know how airplane treats their customers. otherwise if he didn't refuse, people aren't aware of what airlines can and can not do. most people assume you can just be kicked off the airplane for no reason including that pilot's wife you linked to, but apparently that's not the case.
So what're you saying? That he wasn't unconscious long enough for "knocked unconscious" to be used as an explanation for his actions?
