No, there was an overbooking, it's clear as day as outlined in United contract of carriage that passengers can be removed or refused service in this case. Also, he was not obeying by the rules. He agreed to possibly being involuntarily removed from the flight, he agreed to this, you can't argue that. When it came time for him to abide by the rules he agreed to, he chose not to. There is literally nothing I stated that can be "wrong" these are concrete facts, not opinions.
This incident aside, do you agree with Airlines policy of over booking and then pushing people off flights ? Yes or No? If yes, then there's no further argument. Our values are just fundamentally different and that's ok. If no, then it's still ok to believe the man acted in a poor manner, but should be glad it's shining a light on a bad practice.
This is true, but of course none of this matters because it's terrible PR for the airline so they'll settle with the guy and he'll get a payday for acting like an idiot.
It was overbooked once the crew members were booked to fly with the plane. So, you are wrong, it was not a full plane, it was an overbooked plane. As such they followed standard procedure.
There was no overbooking - even UA clearly stated that. And you clearly do not understand the difference between "denying boarding" and "removing from the plane". You are completely wrong. And what's hilarious is that even UA has now admitted they were in the wrong, yet some people still think they should argue their case.
Not at all, I think the policy is a bad one that should be changed and I'd side with the guy if he conducted himself in an appropriate manner. Hopefully this guy uses the money that the airline is going to pay him to seek professional help because he's clearly got some issues that keep becoming a problem in his life.
Goodness - you don't even understand the term "overbooking". Please stop. You keep babbling, but you understand literally nothing about all of this.
No, like many have already pointed out, it's not an overbooking. United agrees. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...lowed-procedures-flier-belligerent/100317166/ Continue.....
I think this is off because boarding isn't over until the door is closed. All of these laws heavily favor the airline and the bottom line is they can boot you whenever they want to no matter what. They just have rules about what they need to pay you.
Them being right or wrong is irrelevant, they are dong their best right now to fight a PR battle. You can be 100% right to where you'd win in court and end up having to take blame anyway for PR reasons. That's the case here. That said, the policy of overbooking needs to be eliminated IMO.
You tried to compare what happened here with a hotel room. You have thoroughly embarrassed yourself here. I used the term in one post, that's not babbling. Whatever is wrong with you mentally, you need to get it fixed or seek mental therapy. A grown adult does not act like you are here. God bless you, your struggles are apparently very real and probably very scary.
Cool, we good. As far as this incident, if it was me I'd told decide it's not worth it, comply and file as many complaints as possible. I also do think we need an incident like this to bring the PR hit to it. Just glad I'm not stepping on the grenade.
That makes sense to the educated Bobby, that apparently is not the case here with Around here. What a sad sorry sack for a man.
Same here, if it was me, I'd probably have volunteered in the beginning and just taken the deal unless I just REALLY had to get back home. If I didn't volunteer and instead was voluntold, I'd be pissed about it and would be looking at my options once I got to the hotel.
I'm pretty sure he didn't expect it to escalated to that amount. We weren't there so we don't know exactly what went down. How do you even know if he was out of control? He could have just simply could have refused peacefully and said no I have to go home, and we don't even know how long it was before the security guard acted violently towards him. Did anyone even tell him his rights and what he could or not do or did they just simply said we are taking you off the airplane? How you approach someone matters. From other passenger perspective that I read on reddit, said he was very calm and wasn't acting belligerent. Yes he had some weird **** going on with his practice as a doctor, but since he got his license reinstated, he might have thought he had to make his appointment to keep his license or it'll be at risk again. There are factors we don't know about, and it's not just a simple he could have gotten off, especially when it seems like United unlawfully kicked him and 3 others off the plane.
To be clear, I wasn't saying that HE was out of control, I was saying the situation was out of control as a result of his actions or rather his inaction. If the guy went along with the program and then sued the hell out of them, I'd be all for it.
If you get this personal on the internet simply due to being embarrassed because you got educated, you are clearly the one with issues. I took the hotel room example from this article, which was previously posted: https://thepointsguy.com/2017/04/i-got-the-united-situation-wrong/ You should read it to educate yourself.
