Oh you don't like that either? LOL. I was referring to my previous comment that you completely ignored: So obviously your statement isn't the case all the time, which is my point. It's much either to generalize than to understand an issue. Keep emboldening your enemy.... it makes no sense. Should we look at Protestant imperialism in Africa as a period of Christian beauty and love?
WTF are you blabbering on about. 36 people just got murdered in Egypt by Islamists, in the name of Islam. That's what this thread is about. You can keep trying to deflect all you want, but stuff like this happens every single day somewhere in the world, in the name of Islam.
Just making it clear that your hate of Islam isn't based on some sort of understanding of the religion or its history. ISIS isn't Islam, anymore than the KKK or LRA is Christianity. Just because you live during a time when Islamic terrorism has rose up in response to Western imperialism, doesn't make Islam evil. I prefer behavior that doesn't embolden ones enemy....
300 women killed/raped in South Sudan daily under the name of Christ! as a 60 years old man with a brain of 2 months old dog, do you think Christianity and all Christians are evil?
~400,000 killed in the Rwandan genocide because they were non-Christians in the mid 90s. It's still happening in central Africa....
I can tolerate hate speech...I can tolerate differences in opinion...I really can tolerate if you dont believe in Christ...But the murdering of innocent individuals who seek to worship in peace and happiness (Palm Sunday is the date that liturgical churches commemorate the entry of Jesus into the city of Jerusalem) this angers me beyond words. My blood boils thinking of the innocent kids who lost their lives. For you a#$-holes that seemingly are dismissive of what happened and then refer to how Christians did blah blah...etc... We live in the here and NOW. And in today's world, people have rightly been skeptical at Islam's true intent. Even if there are 2% of radical jihadist in the world...Islam, a religion of 1.7 BILLION people, have 34 million radical jihadist followers. 34 million...
We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Their habitation is the Fire. (The Family Of 'Imran 3:151) Apostates will be cursed by Allah, angels, and men. They will have a painful doom. (The Family Of 'Imran 3:87) The thing about modern Islam, is that many Muslims believe this is true: apostates should be punished with death. http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-overview/
But this part poisons everything else you say, because the leap from not being able to accommodate sharing the planet with anyone who isn't a co-religionist to justifying violence against them becomes a trivial matter. I'm not a Christian. I'm not going to ever be a Christian. Why should I take seriously someone that doesn't "tolerate" me because I don't believe the same fables he does?
(Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace but a sword ) !! sound fine with ya it's African affairs may be to him ..I wonder if he cares about WW II against Germany ,when the allies troops raped millions of German women,(2 million by Soviet alone) ,each women by 60-70 soldiers at a time, it's on Wikipedia for further details
Here's some of the Old Testamen cherry picking: Deuteronomy 20:16-18 16 However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you. 18 Otherwise, they will teach you to follow all the detestable things they do in worshiping their gods, against the Lord your God. Just leaves you all warm and tingly that God commands you to kill "apostates" as well? Apostates aren't Christians or non-believers in every instance, as your own link describes those who were practiced Islam but then reject it. From your own link.... Furthermore: You should read from the last three sections that you conveniently ignored as here's one of them.... This: One more chart: Here's more info: http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/...ics-society-interfaith-relations/#hostilities Kay, thanks!
On one hand, you and Exiled accept that there are terrible verses in the Quran and write things like “yea, but there are similar ones in the Bible.“. So how can you at the same time say that ISIS isn't representing Islam? It makes no sense to admit that many Quran verses promote violence, but then deny any direct link to terrorism. Terrorists are following explicit words of their holy book, but it's somehow not connected to the religion? Makes absolutely no sense.
The Old Testament has its faults. No one is debating that it doesn't, so quit bringing it up. Or is simultaneously criticizing the Old Testament the only way you can bring yourself to criticize Islam or realize that modern Islam does have some concerning issues? By the way, apostates are people who leave a religion. Al-Qaeda's and ISIS's foundation are that apostates must be punished with death. That is something that Pew's research shows that many Muslims across the world agree with. Not at all concerning to you - why?
The difference between the Koran and the old testament is that no one is killing people for not observing the Sabbath because Leviticus tells them to do so.
First of all, there is no one accepted version of Islam or Christianity. Would you say the atrocities committed by various Christians over the millennia represent Christianity? Terrorists are following interpretations of their holy book that not everyone agrees with. A few small majority of all Muslims, according to the Pew research linked, would condone attacking Coptic Christians in the manner that was carried out yesterday. I think equating the worst of Islam (ISIS) with overall Islam is an ignorant thing and isn't helpful in the least.
I criticize all religion that has led to violence and oppression. Christianity has had some concerning issues in central Africa over the last two decades with hundreds of thousands killed in genocide. But it's Africa.... so it doesn't get the media coverage unfortunately. It is concerning, just like it was concerning during the 16th and 17th century when Catholics and Protestants were at war with each other. Difference is that this is during the time we are living in and we are being directly affected by it. That is a by product of religious dogma, if you aren't correct then well what's the point....
Well today they aren't. And why is that the since the 17th century up until the 1970s Islam hasn't been the conquering, killing force that you like to assume it always is? Why indeed.....
Sigh.... ISIS is a part of Islam because they think they are. Much like the LRA thinks it's doing God's work. Is Islamic extremism an ever growing threat? Absolutely. But as I asked several people.... why did this come about after centuries of relative peace?
Well, LRA actions aren't based on anything that is said in the bible and even its leaders deny a connection to Bible commandments. How is this the same as ISIS, who are following explicit Quran verses (and not just one)? You should revise the history of Islam, it has been violent from the start and many conflicts and wars have been done in the name of Islam throught history. The violent and oppressive sentiments have always been part of the religion.
No actually they want to put Uganda back on track with the 10 commandments.... they are Judaizers... that is they take a very literal interpretation of specific issues within the Old Testament, mainly the Law of Moses (found the in the first 5 books). But honestly.... it's just an excuse to control and oppress people. Again, LRA gets his biblical motivation from many books within the Old Testament. Unless you are saying the Old Testament has no bearing on Christianity then what you said applies to the history of Christianity. It was pretty easy using the Christian God as a means to justify the morality of the worst slave trade in history that still echoes today from the last remnants of Jim Crow. It's all to easy using some sort of god as justification to oppress and control. Don't confuse me for pro-Islam as I abhor all religions who use it to control and oppress people. I just find you and people that think like you as part of the problem. I wonder how you'd act if you were in the shoes of many Muslims who belong to a former Western colony or territory.
