Fox News A. Housley: Surveillance led to unmasking b4 Trump was GOP nominee

Perhaps to satisfy those Trump supporters who are worried about "unmasking", perhaps we should have an independent investigation of the Trump - Russia connection and have Rice and others testify? I am sure lots of people are curious about what information was uncovered in those conversations between Russian officials and Trump people.

 

Hell no she isn't. You don't call giving information to foreign allies 'leaking' and here is what she said:

She couldn't be more clear.

DO you not think Trump officials were unmasked so the information could be leaked? I certainly do.

You know Mike Flynn is being accused for a phone call he had with Russia. Seems like a small jump to assume it came from unmasking but ok ill go along with it. I am not sure how making this assumption muddies anything.

And how am I being played again? Because I think people were unmasked so the information could be leaked? brilliant.

yes, I want you to tell me what anyone is being tried for or found guilty of. ANd to what end? What has Russia gotten from the Trump administration? Obama gave them Syria, Crimea, and uranium.

What exactly do you think Mike Flynn did?

 

Nunes made it a point to say "This is not about Russia" in order to excuse Trump from not obstructing justice since he's at the center of the investigation with Russia.

So since its a separate investigation, not sure why she'd be testifying. However I'd be all for it. Do Trump fans really want Rice to go out there and tell all with what she knows of what the Trump campaign was doing during the election? Are they dumb enough to think her testifying will help them in any way?

 

I would like to know why she unmasked them. What proof did she have of wrong doing that justified such an extreme measure? What has nothing come of this proof that made her 'suspicious'? do you think her actions should be illegal?

 

It is not an extreme measure. It is a very common and ordinary manner. She didn't need proof that they were doing something wrong. All of that has been explained in articles, that apparently you aren't bothering to read.

You don't have to read the articles, but here's the thing. Until you do read it, you are posting without knowing about what you are talking. You are voluntarily going into a fight with one hand tied behind your back and keep wondering why you get KO'd

 

unmasking wiretaps of an incoming administration is common place? orly? tell more. keep speaking please.

I didn't say she did. I never said she did anything illegal. I said i dont know. read.

I personally agree with rand paul on the matter

 

Asking for unidentified speakers in surveillance to be unmasked is common place and that was explained in the article.

Also in the article it shows that based on what we know so far, she has done nothing at all illegal.

 

EX-U.S. ATTORNEY: RICE ORDERED SPY AGENCIES TO CREATE “DETAILED SPREADSHEETS” ON TRUMP
APRIL 4, 2017
LIBERALPOLITICSTRUMP1 COMMENT2 MIN READ
According to a report from The Daily Caller, former U.S. Attorney Joseph diGenova has claimed that Susan Rice ordered U.S. spy agencies to create “detailed spreadsheets” containing information on legal phone calls between Trump and his aides while he was running for President.
The Daily Caller states that diGenova made that claim while speaking with their investigative unit yesterday.

“What was produced by the intelligence community at the request of Ms. Rice were detailed spreadsheets of intercepted phone calls with unmasked Trump associates in perfectly legal conversations with individuals,” he reportedly said.

“The overheard conversations involved no illegal activity by anybody of the Trump associates or anyone they were speaking with,” he allegedly added.

The Daily Caller goes on to state that diGenova claimed, “the only apparent illegal activity was the unmasking of the people in the calls.”

This comes amid controversy surrounding reports that Susan Rice requested the unmasking of officials associated with the Trump campaign dozens of times.
As we reported yesterday, these allegations were first made by Mike Cernovich Sunday evening. They were subsequently confirmed by Bloomberg.

The implications of the situation remain to be seen.

Fox News contributor and former Obama State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf has defended Susan Rice’s actions. She stated, “we have seen no evidence that there was partisan political notice behind this and we can’t say that unless there’s actual evidence to back that up.”

House Intel Committee Chairman Rep Devin Nunes, meanwhile reportedly fears that there was a partisan motive behind the actions.

White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer declined to comment yesterday when asked about a potential motive for Rice’s role.

 

Yeah she couldn't be more clear. The information was dispersed in order to protect it from Trump's people destroying any Intel they found damaging. That's the point. Why aren't you discussing the central theme of what she was talking about?

It was being leaked because they shared the information, but there is nothing illegal or wrong about sharing information with folks on the Hill, CIA, NSA, and foreign intelligence allies.

No... I don't think the "Leaked" stories are coming from the Unmasked intelligence reports Nunes is referring to that he made a big stink about. In Nune's statement, he says clearly that it was NOT part of the Russian investigation. So far what we see has all been tied to Russia. The "unmasking" story is separate. Again.... you are combining stories to fit a narrative. We have yet to see any LEAKED information from these reports or transcripts telling us who they were talking to and about what with THIS STORY.

Again.... Nunes said himself that the unmasking intelligence he's seen is NOT about Russia. The Michael Flynn story doesn't fit in the same story unless Nunes is lying.

The information can be leaked one way or another. See the Carter Page story from yesterday where the intelligence report showed him as "Man 1" and then Carter Page basically admitted to being "Man 1". Leaking happening in Washington is like asking if there is Gambling in the Casino. Stop blaming Obama for all of Trumps problems and take some accountability please. Call me back when Obama broke some major laws that you can prove.

I'm perfectly fine with the assertion that you are being played by misled and re-directed by Right Wing media outlets with a certain plan in mind. So I apologize if "Getting Played" was too harsh, but yes I do think you are being purposefully directed by Right Wing Media on this one.

And I'd like for you to tell me if you are okay with someone like Michael Flynn representing Turkey as a paid foreign agent while handling our most precious national security measures in his hands at all times.... and for Trump ONLY firing him when he got caught red handed do to leaks? Had the Michael Flynn story not been leaked we would have had a compromised foreign agent of another country leading us God knows where.

If Leaks expose this kind of nonsense than I'm all for the Leaks. I don't know about you but I'd like to know that my government officials were actually working for the United States of America and not compromised by monetary allegiance to a foreign power.

"Found Guilty".... talk about a straw man argument. You know and I know that prosecutable crimes and corruption at the highest level of government don't go hand in hand... especially when investigations are being led astray at the highest level because of curveball investigations into non-issues like unmasking are impeding the real investigations.

Look at everything I listed, and tell me with a straight face that you are "Okay" with all of that please? Let me know what kind of real Patriot you are?

 

Isn't it unlikely that she would known they were officials in the incoming administration until they were "unmasked?" Especially since (1) there seems to have been all sorts of interactions between Russians and Trump people and (2) a number of those interactions appear to with Trump people who kept those interactions secret (and were later less than honest about the interactions).

 

Let's see if maybe this time folks will actually read that what Rice did was not unusual or illegal.

I get that it's a more exciting news story if there's a scandal involved, but it just doesn't seem to be the case, here.

Here it is

 

Glad to see you get your information from someone who advocates raping young boys.

So because Rice uses a PC/Windows for her intelligence reports I guess that is a big crime. Should have used a Mac lady geez.

 

One, only the documents that Nunes saw had nothing to do with Russia, and we only have his word for it since he won't share any specifics about it. That doesn't mean that the whole body of stuff that Rice had unmasked had nothing to do with Russia. Two, we don't know that Russian interference is the only thing of legitimate intelligence interest going on. Given the complexity of international affairs and the wide-ranging interests of our intelligence agencies, we probably have our fingers in many pots. If you want to say Rice has done something unethical here, you (or maybe some secret FISA court since the US government would never trust us with this information) would have to know what the conversations were actually about, understand the context, and then see that Rice's interest in the case didn't remotely serve our national security needs.

Or it may at least help the robustness of the argument if you could show the alternative use of this information, the supposed slander of the Trump Admin. What non-Russian-related leak has there been to embarrass Trump? I can't think of any. All the pre-inauguration leaks I can think of were about Russia. Help jog my memory here.

 

But you have to admit that if spreadsheets were made, then it must be a very serious crime. What is the world coming to when people serving the executive branch start making actual SPREADSHEETS?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

 

I just can't believe after everything someone would have the balls to post a blog/article from MILO under any circumstance. Like hey guys, I get my information from the guy who advocates raping young boys. Solid journalist guys.

 

Look, they're not just spreadsheets. They are detailed spreadsheets. What's next, if/then logic? If Clinton was president right now, they'd be building models in Excel for godsakes!

 

double post

 

I didn't offer an opinion. The article says that her actions weren't illegal. Why are you talking crap to me?

 

The article is referencing the "opinion" that the unmasking was illegal from this person-

https://mediamatters.org/research/2016/01/07/right-wing-media-cite-discredited-republican-la/207839

I'm not talking crap. I'm just stating that I'm floored you'd have the guts to post an article/blog whatever from Milo in a public setting but more power to you.

 

I think it was about the article and not about you. The article is from Milo, and it makes a big deal about making spreadsheets. If someone was talking crap about you, then I missed it.