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Fox News A. Housley: Surveillance led to unmasking b4 Trump was GOP nominee

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  1. No Worries

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    Trump is denying that Russian thing, but who cares. He's guilty.
     
  2. FranchiseBlade

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    First of all the two aren't mutually exclusive. A terrorist attack can be planned in response to a video. If you'd like to post reason why the testimony from several of the perpetrators of the attack isn't reason at the early stage of investigation to back the claim, please feel free to provide it.
     
  3. justtxyank

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    Unsourced claim vs evidence based claims
     
  4. No Worries

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    Hey, I'm allowed to have my own set of facts!
     
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    Ehhhhh

    You are muddying the water on this and Bobby is helping you without realizing it.

    The terrorist attack may have been in response to a video, but the original claim wasn't that they planned an attack in response it was that it was a grass roots protest that spontaneously erupted into violence.
     
  6. No Worries

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    Don't hold your breath. Bobby never needs evidence to support his opinion. He knows what he knows. Evidence is for snowflakes.
     
  7. FranchiseBlade

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    Right that was the initial response, and it was subsequently changed. That's the point. It's not like there wasn't reason to suspect that, and it was based on actual intel.
     
  8. Bobbythegreat

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    I just don't see a reason to add validity to a lie though. It's true that the initial lie was different, that it was a protest that turned violent rather than a pre-planned attack which is what it clearly was, but the video BS was also a lie. If you let people get away with one lie, they won't stop there. The Youtube BS was always just spin and no amount of bogint released after the fact to try and back up that initial spin will change the truth.
     
  9. FranchiseBlade

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    Amazing how you know that the multiple sources actually involved in the attack were lying when they claimed it had to do with the video. You know it, yet have not given one single shred of evidence that it was a lie.

    I guess until we all have your knack from just knowing without evidence or in this case contrary to actual evidence, we'll have to rely on actual evidence to make up our minds.
     
  10. bigtexxx

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    HAHAHAHAHA FranchiseBlade has melted down. Now he actually believes Benghazi was due to a video. FB will truly believe anything if a left-wing source puts it out.
     
  11. Bobbythegreat

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    I don't truly blame you for gobbling up the spin and regurgitating it here, but it does get tiresome. We have emails that were written when this whole thing was going down and no one was mentioning a youtube video and they knew from the very beginning that it was a pre-planned terrorist attack....in fact we have emails from Obama administration people at the Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs saying "the horse has left the barn on this, don’t you think? Rice was on FIVE Sunday Morning shows yesterday saying this. Tough to walk back" to which the response was "luckily there’s enough in her language to fudge exactly what she said/meant." another blamed the whole thing on the White House saying "[The White House is] very worried about the politics. This was all their doing"

    Clearly they didn't have enough faith in the Obama administration's ability to release bogint and get suckers to gobble that BS up.

    Anyway, you can feel free believing that the Benghazi terrorist attack was caused by a Youtube video if you like, even that doesn't excuse the lie about how it was just a random protest that turned violent which was the initial spin put out by the Obama administration.
     
  12. FranchiseBlade

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    Please follow the evidence, jr.
     
  13. bigtexxx

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    No, seriously - yes or no do you believe Benghazi was caused by a video?
     
  14. FranchiseBlade

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    Again, I don't believe it was caused by the video. But I understand early on why intelligence reports said it was, and why the administration went with that. The actual people who participated and were ringleaders in the attack claimed it was because of the video. That is a fact.
     
  15. FranchiseBlade

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    Seriously, no, seriously, did the people who were leaders in the actual attack in Benghazi claim it was because of the video? Yes or no?
     
  16. bigtexxx

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    Folks, we have a Benghazi denier on our hands.

    hint: it wasn't due to the video, as has been widely confirmed.
     
  17. FranchiseBlade

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    So are you going to answer the question? I answered yours. (though this response by you ignores what I professed) I'm awaiting your response.
     
  18. bigtexxx

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    Your question presented a false choice. You're simply trying to rationalize your defense of the liberal position. You're blinded by bias.
     
  19. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    I thought you were above attacking posters personally.

    By the way, the congressional (Republican led) investigation into Benghazi
    It's unknown the role the video played - there was a report that Ansar Al-Sharia claimed the attack was in response to the video. So it might have played a role. To complete deny it, or the completely blame the video - either way is completely reckless.
     
  20. FranchiseBlade

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    No, I asked a yes or no question. Yes or no, did participants and ringleaders in the Benghazi raid claim they were inspired in their attack because of the video?

    That isn't a false choice. We have the evidence and testimony about this. All I did was ask the question. I see that you are scared to answer it.
     

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