Russia hired 1,000 people to create anti-Clinton 'fake news' in key US states during election

Who did the original Harden defense videos target? Trending can happen on its own, but when you have 1,000+ ppl working together ...

They aren't emailing or calling ppl or asking to be friends on Facebook. Seems pretty simple to troll Twiter and generate fake news. You just add hashtags to your post, and the other 1,000 ppl reply to it, and you reply to theirs, and so on and so on, then you eventually get a following and you start trending and ppl start retweeting because they want to tell others about your news. People love to Retweet, when they think they found news their friends/followers havent.

Combine that with Instagram accounts generating cool graphs of fake data and photos editing or taken out of context ... and you link to those....

then ... rinse and repeat on Reddit

then..,.then validated Star accounts get in on it ... maybe even mainstream.

 

Yes, I think it matters. It doesn't excuse Russia. But who are we to whine about another country doing the same things we have been guilty of.

When it comes to spying and meddling in other people's business, the USA is out in front of everyone.

 

We may be. We are certainly guilty of more ham-handed schemes to undermine the democratic processes of other countries to get the leadership we want there. We're total assholes and hypocrites in this regard. I'm sure Putin tells himself exactly that. Maybe we should think about not doing it anymore. Doesn't mean we shouldn't make Russia pay for trying it on us, and make them think twice before ever doing it again. I'm all for the US being less evil in international relations, but we still need to defend ourselves.

 

ME: what fake news stories swayed voters?
YOU: Here is one by InfoWars
YOU LATER: The fake news stories did not sway voters
YOU EVEN LATER: technology makes fake news more savvy

you are tripping all over yourself? did fake news stories influence voters or not? if it didn't, then why do you say the stuff above. clearly it didn't make it more effective.

what tactics did the right wing use?

 

LOL. It is you that is tripping all over yourself trying to talk your way out something very clear.

I clearly laid out several fake news stories within one theme (Clinton crime/satonic family), we're you wanting every single fakenews? I thought it was clear, but I will make it crystal, that the sum total of BS/fakenews pushed forth by right wing media outlets created a fake, negative narrative which swayed opinion.

Where's all the talk of Clinton and her "crimes" now? The damage was done and nothing was ever pursed further.

I realize you are being intentionally obtuse.

I explained it, tell me exactly what was confusing and I'll help you out.

I'm not playing your intentionally obtuse game, so quote something specific I said and we can discuss that aspect.

 

This "we need to let them intefere because hypocrisy" is the single dumbest excuse of all the pro-Russia trolls.

Doesn't even need to be discussed why.

 

I agree as , of course we're ******* hypocrites, it just comes with the territory of being the major world power of the last half century. Two wrongs don't make a right and I agree that we should make Russia pay for this.

 

Fair enough, I don't dispute your assertion on spying and election rigging vis a vis the US. However, I do disagree that we are somehow "even" with other state actors like Russia and shouldn't "whine" because we have engaged in it previously.

 

I never said we should let them interfere, and I'm not pro-Russia. I'm just reminding everyone that we are just getting a taste of our own medicine. It doesn't taste very good, does it?

This all needs to stop.

 

If they did but nobody knows that they did, then what difference does that make? It can't be proven they did. It can be proven the Russians did.

Dealing with available evidence is the only thing worth debating in this matter.

 

Friend,

You are the one taking the bite into the logical turdburger of "welp, cant complaon cuz.." that you have lovingly hand prepared in your artisianal poop kitchen.

I accept your representation as to its taste.

 

So the story went from "Russia hacked the election" to "Yellow Journalism in Russia fooled the dumb people in this country too."
This is from the same people that invented the term "Bernie Bros" in order to claim that any vote against their unlikable candidate in a [clearly rigged] primary was a vote for The Patriarchy. Color me complete in my lack of sympathy that the DNC's attempt to manipulate the proles didn't work as well as the people that brought us "Ukranians are treating Russian people worse than the Nazis."

I sure hope I'm wrong and a smoking gun is found that implicates Trump directly as a paid stooge of the Russian Federation, because right now the Democratic Party is doing a **** job at opposing a terribly frightening presidency by putting all their eggs in the "Russia Did It" basket. Everyone is moving on very predictably without even making a real effort -- the Bush jokes are being recycled, suddenly The Democratic Party is anti-war again, and Rachel Maddow is making Geraldo Rivera look respectable.

Meanwhile, working people can't afford healthcare or live remotely as well as they did 20 years ago but let's share vagina hats, share poorly photoshopped pictures of Trump on social media, and make smug comments about misogyny and racism. My God, is that a stolen Mp-40 because you're like totally the Maquis. #Resistance

Meanwhile the Russia Did It Narrative is still #1 (in our stupid country at least) in a current news cycle that has the Chechen puppet government rounding up gay men, a terror (and possibly false flag) attack on the St. Petersburg metro, and unprecedented [real] protests by Russia's under 30 population who are actually concerned that their rights have been taken away by authoritarian oligarchs.

And Sam Fisher, your posts are so orthodoxly DNC Talking Points if I didn't know your history on the board, I would think you were Donna Brazille.

Picture related.

 

Who knew the "r" in republican party stood for russians? Otherwise why so opposed to (1) investigating the extent of Russian impact on U.S. elections (we already know they had some impact, so now the question is how much?). and (2) what involvement, if any, did the Trump campaign have in the Russian efforts. Its clear the Trump people and the republican house committee (at least the committee chair) want to distract / impede any investigation. The senate committee seems to be more serious... but its clear an independent investigation is really needed to look at all aspects of this campaign.

 

No, that's not quite right. Very few people are talking about the Russia changing the results of the election. There are a few, but it is a definite minority that are willing to say that the election result was changed. There is no way to know that and I think it's pointless to claim that.

However, the evidence that Russia did attempt to interfere hasn't really changed. The Russians did more than one thing. They did hack emails, they also put forward fake news stories, and hired trolls to post on websites (We have one on this very website). All of those things were mentioned in the evidence presented by the intelligence community in the declassified version of their report released as a PDF.

Trump supporters keep trying to paint it as Democrats are trying to claim that the election was definitely changed by what the Russians did. That isn't true and it doesn't really matter either way. What is important is that the Russians tried to interfere and did things that is out of the norm in the espionage community, and isn't like things the U.S. and their allies have done to influence elections.

 

This entire Russia soap opera is perhaps the biggest farce I have ever witnessed in my lifetime, and I've lived through a few. This confirms that the MSM can whip up ANYTHING they desire, and have a large chunk of the public believe it.

The Truth: The Dems had the torches and pitchforks out after the election, the MSM was totally exposed for being 110% corrupt, colluding with the Clinton campaign, and they (the MSM) should've been on their deathbed (they were definitely on the ropes), yet they pulled out an ace card deflection of "Russia Did It!" and of course the sheeple Dems shoveled it home like a Big Mac at a fat camp. Fools. They had a chance to clean house with the parasitic MSM. Now through the eyes of rationality they look like the largest collection of paranoid lunatics ever amassed.

 

The moment you freaking lefties here care about Benghazi, then I will care about your stupid Russian fantasy.....in the meantime, cricket.

 

The eyes of rationality = a chatbot script from a subreddit full of real *ladies' men*

Anyway, tell us more about the farces you have lived through - I once saw "Noises Off" as summer stock....lived right freaking thru it.

 

Will you please site specifically in the 14 page pdf declassified intelligence report you find to be inaccurate and why?

That report was not from the MSM but from intelligence personnel of the Unite States of America.

I doubt you will, but I'm giving you the opportunity.

 

What exactly can democrats do to oppose legislation? Trumpcare tanked very quickly and exposed the rift between the factions of the GOP in Congress. Politically, I think continually pushing the Russia issue is a good idea especially since there are some Republicans on board. You have an administration that is very inexperienced and a president very sensitive to appearances, which is using time and energy trying to brush off Russian inquiries from primarily Democrats but also a few Republicans. However, they can't overplay this too much, especially if nothing of substance can be linked.

 

There is some really crazy stuff being claimed by an unholy alliance of neocons and DNC darlings that seem hell bent on a war with Russia for some reason and with a few notable exceptions the same corporate media that assured us Donald Trump had no chance to win an election is now saying he definitely won because Russia.



The next thing I predict is that Tulsi Gabbard will be be accused of being secretly backed by the Kremlin because that's apparently the denial/slur in fashion from a Democratic Party that's hurled at anyone who questions their incompetent leadership.