Just got real folks: Mike Flynn seeking Immunity in exchange for testimony

Ya, snowflakes need their ignore list.

 

I'm assuming you are not implying that this is not worth the time talking about on "debate & discussion" / political forum.

But that you find it comical at what is being discussed about it. Help me understand maybe...?

 

What is there to debate and discuss? The OP insists upon using convolution and naming calling in their first post - as do others (see the post above yours).

So yes, this is a gen of a thread.

 

People have the right to ask, but I don't think people should make assumptions until more information comes out.

As an attorney, I can tell you that any attorney worth his salt is going to insist on immunity prior to testifying in a situation like this. There is no down side for Flynn in asking for immunity.

There are other prominent Republicans that are concerned about what Flynn will have to say, and rightfully so.... POTENTIALLY Flynn could destroy the President and do serious damage to the Republican party.

My point is that people should not believe that it is a forgone fact that Flynn is going to provide material testimony that results in the President being impeached and/or the removal of prominent cabinet members. At this point it is all conjecture..... but it certainly is concerning. I am sure there is a knot in Paul Ryan's stomach right now.

 

You your entire reply to someone else's post had to do with your ignore list. You're trolling. Go away.

 

Honest question.

If Flynn implicates a number of key people around Trump with having direct contact with Russia, and involved in the coordinated effort to release information on Clinton..... do most Republicans call for the ousting of Trump as President? Is there any degree of evidence that would move a majority of Trumpophiles to back away from the President? Would there be any violence if Trump is impeached and forced to resign?

 

Well, the downside is that it gets tongues wagging because it looks like he's guilty of something. But I do kinda agree with the idea that it's probably more good lawyering than a tell. The witch hunt defense is bogus. The media doesn't bring charges on people. Congress is sympathetic to him. The FBI doesn't care about witch hunts, only provable crimes. So, I see two reasonable purposes to this approach:

1. He wants to testify honestly but he knows he's done some stuff he could be prosecuted for, not mere witch hunt stuff. Maybe he wants to roll over on Trump. Or maybe he wants to simply be done with the process and move on with his life.

2. He does not want to testify at all. But he knows there will be a lot of pressure to do so. Congress might subpoena him. Then he'd have 16 hours of saying, "Senator, on the advice of my counsel, I will exercise my right to non-self-incrimination guaranteed by the fifth amendment to the Constitution" over and over again until all our heads explode. So, this would be a preemptive move to make an offer he knows will be refused. When Congress or the FBI come to interview him, his lawyer just gives the pat answer: "My client would be happy to testify if you give him full immunity from prosecution." Then it looks like Congress and the FBI that won't play ball, not Flynn.

Right now, I suspect Flynn has not offered and maybe cannot offer to give testimony that is so damaging that it would end Trump's presidency. I think the FBI would have taken that deal if offered. They wouldn't let a prosecution of Flynn get in the way of getting the goods on Trump. So I'm guessing the testimony he's willing to offer wouldn't be a huge bombshell. But of course I don't know anything at all. Just thinking out loud.

 

This doesn't mean much. There could be some bombshell, but speculating at this point is ridiculous.

 

I don't believe Trump will go down in this situation short of some absolutely damning evidence that points directly to him.

There's too many stooges willing to take a fall for him, plus Congress is too Republican right now to have any kind of meaningful impeachment threat.

However, if this scandal keeps growing, it will absolutely doom Republicans in 2020, and might just cripple them in 2018.

If Trump becomes so politically radioactive by 2020, he may actually not even run for re-election. Rather than lose, he'll make up some nonsense about his family or business needing more of his attention, and it will essentially become Pence the incumbent.

 

Didn't read the thread, but i would said.. this is one of those ... wait for it and do not jump to some conclusion. I can easily see why Flynn want protection.. he is probably thinking there is a good chance he did lie to the FBI. But that might just be it and nothing more.

 

Don't give this dipshit diddly. Lock him up.

 

but Sweet Lou has already confirmed all the facts! Even before we know them!

 

Is that akin to starting a thread titled "Obama bugged Trump Tower..." prior to all the facts being in?

 

No. They will just say "at least it's not Hillary."

Sounds like I'm kidding, but I'm not. I have some friends and even some family that support him, and this is exactly how they think. No hyperbole.

Hell, even Trump himself said he could kill someone in Times Square and his supporters wouldn't care. I don't think he was kidding either.

 

Yup, Trump is just the kind of crazy know-nothing that deep Texas voters love. From the state that brought Tom Delay, Louie Gohmert and Ted Cruz.

 

"I said 5th Avenue. You can check the tape. See, this is how the fake news gets started. It starts with ima."

 

The Fox News spin that Flynn is only asking not to be targeted in a witch hunt is misleading and a false narrative. You don't ask for immunity unless you have done something that is a prosecutable offense. Doesn't mean there was any intentional wrongdoing, but you are now aware that some of your actions can be prosecuted under the law. Even your lawyer advised you so and help craft a letter asking such immunity from Congress.

 

You seem very sure of all of these points. Do you practice law?

 

2019. said it in dec and i'll say it again - he will be out by 2019