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Trump: ‘We must fight’ hard-line conservative Freedom Caucus

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  1. KingCheetah

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    Trump: ‘We must fight’ hard-line conservative Freedom Caucus in 2018 midterm elections

    President Trump effectively declared war Thursday on the House Freedom Caucus, the powerful group of hard-line conservative Republicans who blocked the health-care bill, vowing to “fight them” in the 2018 midterm elections.

    In a morning tweet, Trump warned that the Freedom Caucus would “hurt the entire Republican agenda if they don’t get on the team, & fast.” He grouped its members, all of them Republican, with Democrats in calling for their political defeat — an extraordinary incitement of intraparty combat from a sitting president.

    There are about three dozen members of the Freedom Caucus, and most of them were elected or reelected comfortably in solidly Republican districts. With his tweet, Trump seemed to be encouraging primary challenges to each of them in next year’s elections.

    House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) told reporters late Thursday morning that he sympathized with Trump.

    “I understand the president’s frustration,” said Ryan, who has unable to push the health-care bill through his own chamber. “I share frustration. About 90 percent of our conference is for this bill to repeal and replace Obamacare and about 10 percent are not. And that’s not enough to pass a bill.”

    Ryan said he had no immediate plans to bring the health-care bill back to the House floor.

    “This is too big of an issue to not get right, and so I’m not going to put some kind of artificial deadline on saving the American health-care system from oncoming collapse,” said Ryan, who initially scheduled the bill’s passage for the seventh anniversary of the Affordable Care Act’s signing.

    Trump and his White House advisers have been frustrated by the intransigence of Freedom Caucus members, led by Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.). Trump lobbied them intensively to support the GOP plan to replace President Barack Obama’s signature Affordable Care Act, only to see the bill collapse last Friday after Meadows and some of his allies said they would not vote for it.

    “This has been brewing for a while,” a White House official said of Trump’s decision to target Freedom Caucus members and other GOP foes.

    Trump has been “paying close attention and keeping his options open,” said the official, who was not authorized to speak publicly and requested anonymity to do so. “Our view is: There’s nothing as clarifying as the smell of Air Force One jet fuel. So if he needs to bring in the plane and do a rally, he’s going to think about doing that.”

    The official added that Trump and White House aides are “sick and tired” of seeing Freedom Caucus members on television in recent days.

    Trump’s threat comes as Republican leaders are bracing for a month of potential GOP infighting over spending priorities. Congress must pass a spending bill by April 28 to avert a government shutdown, but the path ahead, as in recent spending battles on Capitol Hill, is narrow and filled with obstacles.

    Beyond that, the same divide that derailed the health-care legislation could imperil the next marquee legislation Trump wants to tackle: tax reform.

    White House press secretary Sean Spicer told reporters Thursday that Trump remains committed to “a bold and robust agenda,” adding: “He’s going to get the votes from wherever he can.”

    Spicer said it would be improper for him to comment from the White House briefing room about Trump’s electoral plans.

    Most Freedom Caucus members were elected from very safe Republican districts, and many of them faced no primary opposition in their last election. To make good on his threat, Trump would have to recruit GOP candidates to make the case that the Republican incumbent they face was unhelpful to the president.

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    Schadenfreude. :)
     
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    Totally missed it.
     
  5. NewRoxFan

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    "pleasure derived by someone from another person's misfortune."
     
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    Definitely worthy of a second thread.
     
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    this thread's title is way better, I didn't know what the other thread was even about and ignored it.
     
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    So, in essence, Trump is fighting the tea party. The same fools who got him elected.
     
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    Yeah pretty much the same crowd that wants the gubmint to keep their hands off their Medicare; the supply side crowd still thinking that if we keep giving more and more tax breaks to folks many rungs above their own paygrade they will finally have some trickle down.

    The FREEDOM CAUCUS lol. got to wuv em. They and their funders want to be free from taxes and want their little guy followers to be free from healthcare unless they self fund.
     
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    Freedom Caucus . .. hhhmmm . . .. Tea Party . . . . . .Reform Party . . . .. as these like pokemon evolutions?

    Rocket River
     
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    LOL, more popcorn please...

    Did Trump Aide Dan Scavino Violate Hatch Act With Tweet Calling for ‘Defeat’ of GOP Congressman?
    http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...avino-violate-hatch-act-tweet-calling-n741746
     
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    What's the point of this Hatch Act? Are people going to vote against Amash because Dan Scavino told them to?
     
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    @NewRoxFan, I read that already. Still sounds like political hackery. I read a little about why they made this law in the first place. Politicians were using the WPA as a patronage system, which sounds worth outlawing. Trying to figure why it feels so wrong to apply here. I think mostly because this is the social media director whose job it is to perpetuate Trump's public political positions. Trump just finished saying the Freedom Caucus should be primaried (exempt by statute from the Hatch Act), and here comes his minion to say the exact same thing and people cry oh you can't do that! It's only relevant because it's a reflection of Trump's view, which is exempt. Insofar as it's Scavino's own view, it's not even worth a sentence in a newspaper article because he's a nobody except in how he communicates the President's views.
     
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    This may very well be Trump's legacy: the fracturing of the Republican party into bickering factions.
    • Trump, Bannon, et al. leading the Neo-Nationalists.
    • Freedom Caucus running the anti-government Tea Party.
    • Ryan and McConell salvaging what's left of the pro-business GOP establishment.
     
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    His legacy is going to be similar to that of George Wallace.

    The truth is that we are not as evolved as a country as we liked to think we were.

    Racism, fear, negativity and hatred still play a big part in our identity.
     
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    This pdf appears to list what is and is not acceptable. I am guessing the part that was violated was:
    Is the question that the Freedom Caucus member is currently not running in a political race? is the timing that is creating the question?

    https://www2.usgs.gov/quality_integrity/downloads/ethics/HA Poster Further Restricted 2016.pdf
     
  19. JuanValdez

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    I just don't think it furthers the cause of democracy.
     

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