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Evelyn Farkas, former Obama admin official, admits spying on Trump

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by sugrlndkid, Mar 29, 2017.

  1. LosPollosHermanos

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    I am thoroughly convinced that the GOPers on this board suffer from severe mental disabilities.
     
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    Two Americas in the post-factual world, embrace the facts of the alternative and ye shall be saved!
     
  3. wekko368

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    She actually says "the Trump folks, if they found out how we knew what we knew about the Trump staff’s dealings with Russians...". That could certainly be interpreted as spying on Trump.
     
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    It could be interpreted that they got the info from martians, but that doesn't make that likely. That is taking that portion of a statement out of context.
     
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    Sorry, but it's not. They had access to information that they shouldn't have had access to. Based on what she said, that's very clear. Whether or not you think they're using martians as middlemen, that's up to you.
     
  6. TheFreak

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    Those that "didn't vote for Trump" seem awfully fired up about this.
     
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    Wait... I'm confused here (or is that the purpose.... to confuse to get the heat off of Trump and make him a Martyr). This came out weeks ago alongside the Jeff Sessions WaPo story that led to his recusal if I remember correctly. Evelyn is just stating what we already know.

    OF COURSE the Obama folks had Intel about the investigation that they dispersed to foreign allies to protect the Intel because they didn't trust the Trump admin to bury that Intel. Still doesn't mean that Obama ILLEGALLY wiretapped Trump Tower or broke any other crimes that we know of.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/01/us/politics/obama-trump-russia-election-hacking.html?_r=0

    They had great reason to do so since its obvious (with the Nunes WH cover up scandal going on) that the Trump admin has no interest in the Russian investigation with ties to Trump officials being investigated as well.

    Why is this so groundbreaking to the Trump fans?

    Why are you trying to confuse people about real stories with evidence vs made up ones with no evidence?

    Why do 70% of Republicans STILL think that Obama illegally wire tapped Trump Tower? (poll that came out this morning)

    Why do Trump fans think its a big deal the Obama admin had intelligence at all?

    Why are Trump fans hell bent on following like a sheep off a cliff on this unmasking diversion tactic? Russia attacked our Democracy AND WILL GO AFTER YOUR TEAM NEXT and all you care about is our former President having TOO MUCH intelligence?

    Why are people that call themselves "Patriots" all the damn time okay with burying a crime committed by a hostile enemy of the US just to protect Trump?

    As Trump would say.... Sad.
     
  8. sugrlndkid

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    The following is a long and lengthy NYTimes story that ran on March 1st 2017 -
    "Obama Administration Rushed to Preserve Intelligence of Russian Election Hacking"
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/01/us/politics/obama-trump-russia-election-hacking.html?_r=2

    The NYTimes did NOT identify the sources in order to protect this idiot against legal ramifications...She essentially shared classified information to a newspaper. She outed herself and her former colleagues as individuals that leaked this information widely throughout the governmental departments. She should be prosecuted relatively soon...just for being an idiot. And the sad fact is that she resigned in September 2015 from the DOD.

    For the past several months, Trump has been stating that himself and his staff were the targets of illegal surveillance...And many of yall were entirely dismissive of the allegation. Now a high level ex Obama administration official publicly states that he and his staff members were surveilled and you dismiss this as "OLD and FAKE news..."

    This is a transcript of what was said on the MSNBC interview...
    Fake news for the left has now become news they dont like.
     
  9. sugrlndkid

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    She points the finger at herself and her colleagues as the individuals that leaked classified information widely throughout the government. She is next level stupid...
     
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    But that's not what the OP wanted to hear...which is really the important thing here.
     
  11. FranchiseBlade

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    I think that's what's important here. Of course these are the same people who think Nunes information somehow backed up Trump's Tweets and that it proved they were "mostly" true. That wasn't the case with what Nunes said, and what Farkas said in no way backs up Trump's tweets either.
     
  12. sugrlndkid

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    What a terrific insightful post...smdh
     
  13. FranchiseBlade

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    Anyone who leaked classified information should face the government.

    That being said, I'll admit it's strange to see people who were singing the praises of wikileaks releasing stolen documents obtained in an effort to undermine American democracy, now worry and fret over leaking of information.
     
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    What's the substance? It seems like this is looking worse and worse for those working with the Trump campaign. Nunes seems guilty of doing the same thing and he's supposed to be in charge of the investigation.
     
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    Maybe she is stupid for being this open on air. However In the context it's like saying a cop should pull over someone for running a red light while someone is robbing an old lady on the side of the road at gun point.

    That being said leaking classified information is a big problem in Washington. But that's like being concerned because there is gambling in a casino. It's Washington. However we don't know exactly what she's referring to as leaked information and whether it was classified or not. There is a big difference in leaking that Jeff Sessions met with a Russian spy and leaking an actual classified intellugence information... like what was leaked to Wikileaks about the CIA last month that likely had something to do with Nigel Farage since he was at the embassy with Assange the day it was released.

    Most of the damaging Russian ties info leaked out about Trump has nothing to do with classified intelligence. Some of the stuff on Flynn though maybe but even then are you not glad that we found out that Flynn was working for the Turkish government? Are you seriously okay with that?

    (Also good point by Franchiseblade about the love fest Trump fans had with Wikileaks. Where is the outrage with Nigel Farage a longtime Trump cronie who often spoke to crowds on the campaign trail? Guy most likely had a hand in leaking serious CIA classified intelligence)

    And people are confusing two things that I think is really important here. The Obama admin dispersing intel with our allies likely is highly legal and common place. That's not a leak. I think people are getting confused here on this topic.

    The priorities here call for our resources be fully put in on the Russian meddling because they will try this again in 2018, and don't forget that they did probe our voting systems as well even though apparently they weren't successful. Republicans just don't realize Russia will mess with their candidate too if it benefits Putin. 2018 is right around the corner and Russia is working our allies elections right now as we speak. This is a 911 type of an emergency. France and Germany are big players in the world and their elections are under attack as we speak.

    I think a seperate investigation is needed on leaks but should be with a seperate bi partisan committee that makes it clear to the public that this is a seperate investigation. This also isn't something Trump fans should really chomp at this bit for because a good majority of the reporters claim all the time that a lot of leaks actually come from Trumps team.
     
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    The video is not even close to supporting the title of this thread.
     
  17. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    The crazie beirbart crowd here is at it again
     
  18. Brando2101

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    OP can't read. Title is a lie.
     
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  19. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    If that's not projecting I don't know what is.
    Project much?
     
  20. sugrlndkid

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    I agree that its important to punish those who leak information...(ie. Snowden etc.)Not sure of the right course when it comes to how to punish them.. On the other hand, Wikileaks acts as a news conduit for individuals who want to remain in the dark... All he does it publish !00% verifiable facts. Assange is doing what newspapers and media should be. I wont condone any action against the NYTimes...but to those that leaked the information to them, they should be held to a higher standard.

    Secondly, Farkas was working with the Hillary campaign since resigning in Sept 2015. Considering she is a high level official, she should have more understanding of the importance of the information being disseminated.

    Finally, it seems her actions represent a form of sedition against the incoming administration. She is actively trying to get her former colleagues to spread classified information everywhere just as a means of "hurting" the incoming administration and staff.

    Regardless of every attempt by the DNC and prior administration, there have been nothing but bogus allegations that Trump/staff was maliciously involved with Russian operatives. Its a self created smokescreen that democrats are hoping to create and using the MSM as a means to propagate this false allegation. I am still waiting for any concrete thing that definitively conects the current administration to corrupt Russian activity.

    I am sick of Republicans and democrats in our nation that are concerned about anything by the future of US citizens. That should be their only fcking focus. In my opinion, I do think the primary goal of democrats everywhere is to keep saying Russia and Trump in the same breath hoping that it has an impact on future election cycles. Not only are these individuals misguided, they are setting themselves for a brutal 2018 campaign and future 2020 national elections.

    One more question...I am told that the DNC did a complete house cleaning of staff. Why would they clean house if they arent concerned about leaks? Werent they hacked...or was it a source from within??? In my opinion, it seems that the information that Assange had came from within...just my opinion.
     

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