James Harden is gonna get screwed over again in MVP Voting

People on here should have more faith, if Harden gets screwed the org should have a right to walk up to the league and go protest.

Or boycott certain media guys.

 

Oladipo - MAX
Kanter (~17 million)
Adams - MAX ( via 4 years 100 million ext)
Westbrook (MAX)

 

According to this article, Adams and Oladipo aren't getting the max:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/simono...victor-oladipo-and-steven-adams/#2cb5af343156

 

You right. **** close enough. More payroll than our 'lousy' roster hacks are making. I guess next year their contracts really constrain OKC.

 

Steven Adams has a total of 1 defensive rebound in his last 3 games. 1!!! This guy is 7 ft tall and 255 lbs.

Westbrook has 30 defensive rebounds in his last 3 games. He's only 6'3 and 200 lbs.

That is so ridiculous.

 

If we got Gibson and mcbuckets the media would be fingerblasting themselves about our new big 3

 

you mean adams boxed out for WB 30 def rebounds in the last 3 games and 1 accidentally fell to him

 

Adams actually managed to get 9 defensive rebounds in a game a little over a week ago and surprise, surprise...Westbrook did not get a triple double in that game. Russ only finished with 8 boards even tho he played 36 minutes in that game which is almost 2 minutes above his season average.

I would hate to play on Westbrook's team if I was 1 of his teammates, especially if I was a big man. If we win, it's all because of him and how he carried us since he's the only non-scrub on the team. If we lose, it's our fault because we suck and couldn't do anything to help. If I'm a big, I'll rarely get the ball unless Westbrook drives and dumps it off to me, and I have to do all the dirty work in the paint and box out my man just so Westbrook can up his rebounding totals. How is that fun?

 

Well if OKC can grab DoMo the best ever boxing out guy in NBA history this off season, I can see Westbrook's rebounds go up to 15RPG+

DeMo is the missing factor.

 

Lmao, Westbrook is 7-30 for his career when he shoots 9 or more threes. Harden is averaging 9.1 three point attempts this season, and the wins have been piling up.

 

James Harden's Case For MVP In Seven Charts
Ben Golliver
Mercifully, the never-ending MVP debate between James Harden, Russell Westbrook, LeBron James and Kawhi Leonard is nearing a conclusion. Harden’s Rockets scored a convincing victory over Westbrook’s Thunder on Sunday, giving Houston a 3–1 series lead this season and dropping Westbrook to 3–9 against the Rockets, Warriors, Spurs and Cavaliers. With those factors in mind, let’s make the case for Harden as MVP in seven charts and tables.

1. James Harden’s averages are off the charts
The strongest argument for Westbrook as MVP is, without a doubt, his historic run at becoming the first player since 1962 Oscar Robertson to average a triple double. Entering Monday’s action, Westbrook was averaging 31.3 points, 10.5 rebounds and 10.4 assists, insane numbers that most assumed he wouldn’t be able to keep up over the course of an 82-game season. For some voters, the MVP conversation will be determined entirely by whether Westbrook takes his spot alongside Robertson.

Rockets GM Daryl Morey and Houston fans have been vocal in recent weeks that this conversation shouldn’t boil down to “Triple doubles or bust.” The gist of their argument is that the triple double cut-offs are an arbitrary measure and that Westbrook’s ability to average a few more rebounds than Harden shouldn’t override Houston’s advantage in the standings and Harden’s many other merits.

To provide better context, let’s look at how Westbrook, Harden and James shape up against the 10 most productive NBA MVPs of the three-point era. In the following chart, a player’s points, rebounds and assists are added together to measure their overall per-game production. This year’s players appear in red and are marked with an asterisk.




Note that both Westbrook and Harden currently top every single NBA MVP in combined points, rebounds and assists. That includes peak Michael Jordan, peak James, peak Larry Bird, peak Magic Johnson and super productive centers like Shaquille O’Neal and Moses Malone.

While Westbrook supporters might see his No. 1 ranking on this chart as fuel for the argument that this should be an open-and-shut case, a more balanced read would conclude that their concurrent dominance warrants a deeper look at other possible factors. Think about it this way: Would Westbrook really be “snubbed” if he was beat out for MVP by a player with more combined points/rebounds/assists than any other MVP since 1980? The answer to that rhetorical question should be a firm “No.”

2. Harden holds noticeable shooting efficiency advantage
The chart above clearly establishes that both Westbrook and Harden have been monster producers, the likes of which the NBA hasn’t seen in the modern era. But how, exactly, are they getting it done?

A quick glance at their shooting splits might lead to the conclusion that Harden holds a narrow lead:

• Harden: 44.8 FG%, 35.2 3P%, 84.8 FT%
• Westbrook: 42.2 FG%, 33.6 3P%, 83.9 FT%

However, Harden’s better overall shooting coupled with his much greater reliance on the three-point ball—he’s the only player other than Stephen Curry to attempt nine threes per game—gives him a clear True Shooting Percentage advantage. Entering Monday, Harden boasted a 62 TS% and Westbrook owned a 54.9 TS%.

The following chart, which compares True Shooting Percentage to Usage Rate, should help provide some context for what that means. This chart includes every MVP from the three-point era along with Harden, Westbrook, LeBron James and Kawhi Leonard, the consensus top-four MVP candidates this year. This year’s are marked with an asterisk.



This chart is fascinating for a few reasons. First, note that Westbrook’s record-setting 40.7 Usage Rate makes him a complete anomaly compared to MVP winners. He’s using way more possessions than 2001 Allen Iverson and 1998 Michael Jordan, who both rank among the most ball-dominant MVP winners since 1980.

Second, though, note how recent MVP winners—guys like 2016 Curry, 2015 Curry, 2014 Kevin Durant, 2013 James—have managed to maintain very high True Shooting Percentage numbers despite healthy usage rates. Also note how Harden, James and Leonard all fit the high-usage, high-efficiency mold this year while Westbrook (sky-high usage, mediocre efficiency) clearly does not.

Third, and most importantly, Harden is a more impressive outlier on this chart than Westbrook. His usage rate currently exceeds Jordan’s MVP seasons while his efficiency exceeds all three of his major MVP competitors plus a vast majority of the MVP winners over the past 37 years. The ideal lead option shoulders a monster burden without killing his shooting numbers. Harden, like Curry, Durant and James before him, fits that bill. Westbrook doesn’t.

Continued at:
http://www.si.com/nba/2017/03/27/james-harden-nba-mvp-case-rockets-russell-westbrook

 

I find it hard to have faith when the Rockets winning basketball games is viewed as a negative for Harden.

 

Isn't this absolutely insane? People are actually using that win yesterday to argue against him. Wild times. Hopefully voters pay attention to legitimate facts like the SI article.

 

Eric Gordon might be the 2nd best player on the Rockets, sporting a dazzling 13.9 PER, and that will be the reason that James Harden doesn't win MVP. Incredible.

 

Why aren't more people asking the question "Why did Durant LEAVE?" If you're truly honest with yourself, and aren't an agenda-driven, morally fickle, shallow-minded journalist, you would understand that it's because Westbrook isn't capable of making his teammates better. He's not wired that way. Even his assists come because he FORCES the action.

 

OMG! That Brenda Hawkins person twitting on the article. Makes me want to kill myself

 

Not a single analyst picked Harden to win MVP... and then one went on to roast Beverley for his comments about resting players. that Houston media conspiracy theory keeps lurking back