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Obama bugged Trump Tower before election

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by bigtexxx, Mar 4, 2017.

  1. LosPollosHermanos

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    Thats probably the most tame thing he's said. He once said he was free to do w.e he wanted because at the end of the he was "forgiven". He also believes that all sciece etc is derived from the bible (jesus riding dinosaurs stuff..)
     
  2. fchowd0311

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    Do I live too much in an isolated bubble of rational humans to believe that there can't be no other conclusion other than cml playing a shtick and trolling? Like, no way this dude can be for real?
     
  3. LosPollosHermanos

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    I wish, but my faith in humanity is not meant to be restored. He has most of us on block anyways, the second someone calls into question that his interpretation of the bible isn't the law of the land, he puts them on ignore. I mean just look at the other thread he replied to FB in. Ignore the self righteous "I walk on water and am forgiven bs," apparently FB is a socialist or supports socialist policies (typical wing nut accusation when they don't understand what socialism is) and can't also be a christian while holding those beliefs.

    Like b****, wtf do you think Jesus was?
     
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  4. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    They aren't trolling, this is what they really believe. They live in a different reality - alt-reality. We are talking to people who are for a better word brainwashed. People like Bigtexxx, bobbythegreat, CML, spaceghost - they are all warped in their view and can not see their own bias. I see this in real people as well, tend to be older and perhaps a sign of early stage senility. But they buy into anything they find on Breitbart or Info Wars or whatever. They see whatever propaganda that comes from those sources as the truth, and whatever truth comes from the "MSM" as propaganda. They have a rationalization for every kind fo counter argument to their reality mainly involving conspiracy theories.

    These people are of the same mindset of the people who think 9/11 was done by the U.S. govt. What is sad is that they represent a YUGE chunk of the population.

    Trump isn't trolling the media as part of some artful game - he is one of these people. He is just like CML. He gets his news and views from the same source. That's why they accept him and think he makes sense. He is literally one of them.
     
  5. bigtexxx

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    So much rage from you - and so much wrong in your post. I guess that's what happens when you keep losing elections. People like yourself are completely duped by the likes of CNN, HuffPo, and MSNBC. You get spoon-fed the narrative you want from then, and your ideas are reinforced. That leads to you spending more time watching these media outlets, and more ad money for them, and the cycle repeats... It's a terrible way to share unbiased news.

    People voted for Trump due to his agenda around economic growth (infrastructure spending, lower taxes) and strong borders (in part due to the rise of ISIS and their inspired attacks in American which happened under Obama). All the liberals can see is what they perceive as non-PC comments from Trump and therefore write off everything else that comes from him. To liberals, being PC is of #1 importance (feelings over facts), and without that you're simply a racist/misogynist/Hitler clone. Totally laughable and wrong.
     
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    Everything that comes from him? Sorry, but you're wrong. We have no way to judge at this stage his performance on economic growth and border protection. All we have to go by at this point are his actions to date. And yes, his words uttered in a public forum such as Twitter are actions. And he has been a failure to date, which is pathetic given the short time he has been President. He has historically low approval ratings because the American people expect more from their President. He has made zero attempts to reach out to his opponents- which he promised to do. He should just shut his yap and do his job- and maybe lay off the weekly vacations.

    Your opinion is valid. It's also in the minority. He may go down as the worst President of the last 2 centuries. I hope he does well- I'd like to avoid another recession- not good for business.
     
  7. justtxyank

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    Agreed. The idea that Trump has been trolling people, or playing some game with the media for diversion should be put to bed. He's a believer.
     
  8. Amiga

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    There is nothing non-PC about Trump showcasing his beliefs in conspiracy theories. What a joke.
     
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    I still do not disagree with anything he has done policy wise but I do not like the healthcare bill they are peddling. If it passes in the same form as it is now, I will have a huge disagreement with him and all Republicans. That being said, although I did vote for Trump, I did so because he was the only candidate that could beat Clinton. I voted against Clinton in the election. I was a huge Ted Cruz supporter in the primaries and couldn't stand Trump. I still do not like Trump but think he is doing a good job thus far. He has done far better than I would have ever predicted.
     
  10. cml750

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    Oh the irony in what Sweet Lou posted. He described himself and the other brainwashed libs to a tee. He and others like him are exactly what he he claims people like us are. They actually believe the BS they peddle because of their warped sense of reality and the daily media just spoon feeds it to them which reinforces the make believe world they live in just like you said. He claims we get our news from one source when he couldn't be farther from the truth. He probably thinks I have Fox news on all day. Truth is, the only time I watch Fox is during debates, election day coverage, and when my Mother-in-law comes to visit because she does actually sit and watch it all day long. When I watch TV it is almost always on the Discovery channel, the History channel, Animal Planet, etc... I do sometimes watch HBO. In the rare times I tune to a news feed to learn about a story like a terrorist attack or something like that, I typically switch between all the station, CNN, MSNBC, and FOX . I have learned like I am sure you have too that you have look at multiple sources to get the whole truth and a lot of times you never get the whole truth from any of the network news stations.
     
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    You're comparing your situation to others. They're not the same. I have an aunt in Brenham, TX. Lives off Fox News. I have another member of the family stationed in Alabama. Fox and Breitbart are his religions. It's really a thing. Listen to Rush, Hannity, or Levin- 100s of people who will reference Fox as the only legit news source.

    I'm not saying they're any worse than extreme liberals. I'm saying there are millions of people who rely only on Fox and extreme alt-right sites- just as I am sure there are millions of libs who do the same with their choice of media.
     
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    I don't know where you get this rage bit from. You have bought into some kind of archetype created by your propaganda.

    I don't read MSNBC, or CNN, or HuffPo for political news by the way. You are making something up here.

    Trump has no agenda other than military spending, get rid of any kind of regulation that industry lobbies again, cut taxes for the rich, and build a useless wall, oh and conduct raids in Muslim countries that totally backfire and just put our soldiers in unnecessary harms way for nothing.

    Meanwhile people like you create your alt-narrative that for "libs" it's just about PC and not policy. Which goes to show how ignorant you truly are.
     
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    The irony is that you dont' realize how you are describing yourself to a T. Fox news isn't all that bad to be honest, compared to Breitbart, FOX is becoming downright liberal.
     
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    lol, I have literally NEVER used Brietbart as a source in my life. I have only been to the website maybe 4 or 5 times and that was by clicking links posted by other people. Mega fail Lou, try again.
     
  16. Amiga

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    Joke aside...

    Trump has weird body language around powerful women. Refused to look at her and ignored her question of shall we shake hands. Never seen a so called leader so uncomfortable around powerful women.
     
  17. Mr.Scarface

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    Yo

    Brainwashed? LOL. I think you mean white poor, rural and middle class voters. They see a budget cutting things they really need and now are crying "Trump was supposed to help us!". They believed a 70 year-old Billionaire,who has done nothing but step on the backs of the working class, would actually give a damn about them! LOL. Dumb ****s.......
     
  18. Yung-T

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    Amazing how you can write this crap in a thread you made solely based on one Trump tweet and the worst British tabloid.

    Really hope you are trolling at this point, no person can be this delusional and stupid.
     
  19. bigtexxx

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    I seriously believe that you are the one duped. You likely get your news from European sources - which are even farther to the left than US based sources. As an example, parts of Europe (including Germany) are completely obsessed with global warming - as their top priority, even. That's just laughable, but they think it's normal because that's what they've been spoon fed to believe. Last time I was there I was lectured for taking a 10 minute shower - apparently I should have taken a 3 minute shower. Just LOL.
     
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    Lets talk about that agenda shall we. And leave the non-PC outrage to the side for a minute.

    -Where is the proposed "infrastructure spending" that Trump campaigned on in his new budget?
    -Lower taxes.... do you make over a million dollars per year? Hell even the 250K per year mark (which is the lowest under the GOP roll backs that will see tax breaks)? Why do you care about rich people getting tax breaks, and if middle class and poor people will see tax breaks that nobody else knows about, please show me that legislation please.
    -Strong borders... Whats a more effective use of 20 billion dollars... building a wall in the desert, or how about investments in technology & manpower? Whats the plan for the north border which is way more susceptible to terrorists crossing illegally.

    Also lets talk about Liberal policies while we are at it-

    What ideas are liberals getting brainwashed with by the left media that is so damaging to mankind-

    -That everyone should have healthcare as a right?
    -That we should take care of our God Given Earth
    -That Science is a good thing
    -That tax breaks should be there for the middle class more than the wealthy?
    -To show kindness and respect to folks with Brown and Black skin?

    I mean tell me what is so wrong about being brainwashed with a leftist agenda? If the media has a secret agenda to brainwash Americans to be Left of Center in their thinking please tell me why that's so much worse than the Right media agenda which preaches fear for breakfast, Islamophobia, shelter your kids from the Trans monsters who will harm your children in the bathroom, despise for poor people on welfare, and a love for packing heat every second of the day to feel safe?

    The reason why 60% of Americans despise Trump isn't because they despise border security, tax breaks, and infrastructure. Its because they know that all of that they know that what he says means nothing do to his lack of credibility (basically he's been full of BS since the 70's), and he uses the Right Media tactics (fear, outrage, lying, etc.) to buy loyalty from suckers who don't understand that he has no credibility. All the while they are smart enough to know that the GOP priorities will ultimately be what Trump pursues in office (tax cuts for wealthy, Corporate hand outs, screw over the poor and elderly) instead of his populist brand of BS that he sold the FoxNews watchers and the uneducated who don't know any better.

    But if you want to argue policy lets do it. I'll be happy to JUST talk about policy and ignore I know you think about who you think is the enemy... (the MSM (minus Fox) and the people who might watch & read their material).
     

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