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Now Trumpster Want to eliminate meals on wheels for seniors.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by glynch, Mar 16, 2017.

  1. Jugdish

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  2. FranchiseBlade

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    The thing is that it's just mean-spirited and not financially responsible at all. Same with the arts program cuts. The small amount these programs play in the budget won't help reduce the deficit, the cuts won't help shrink our debt. It doesn't help with any of that. So cutting those programs only hurts the recipients.

    Anyone who looks at our budget wouldn't target these tiny sliver expenses if they wanted to cut waste, reduce the debt and deficit spending. The only purpose these cuts serve is hurting folks who are the beneficiaries.

    It's very bizarre that this is what the administration has chose to do.
     
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    Yes this administration can be that tone deaf. Seriously, has trump ever had real personal contact with someone that needs meals on wheels or any other "entitlement program". When people were championing for a business person who has made a lot of money they probably didn't realize they were championing for a person that had zero in common with them. Sure the guy can speak off the cuff, but I promise you he does not understand the day to day fight the the lower and middle class go through everyday. All he has ever known is excess and ease. He thinks losing money is a sacrifice. He does not know that losing your house, job, or going without a meal is a sacrifice. He has never been faced with hard decisions that the middle and especially the lower class have to make every day. Then he surrounds himself with millionaires and billionaires that only know the same thing. What do people expect?

    This whole situation frustrates me. Our military is ridiculously large. Like larger than the next 7 combined and all but one is our ally. That is redundant to me. Want to talk about government waste, our military is government waste. We are basically subsidizing the rest of the world that are our allies military with our military. We are not even subsidizing Americans. . . . . . and we want to cut programs that help Americans every day so we can subsidize the worlds lack of military. Yup, makes a lot of sense for those champion pride in America. . . .
     
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    Well this will definitely bring attention to the program and they're going to get a ton more donations. Maybe that's Trump's plan? JK.

    I volunteer at MoW every Thanksgiving, and I have to say occasionally there are families I go to that make me go "hmmm" with Escalades parked on the driveway or some jacked tatted up guy with a grill with diamonds embedded on it come out and get the meals. Like 10% of them though, most are legit people in need.
     
  5. Amiga

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    Trump expect his almost weekly trips to his paradise is great spending of tax payer moneys, but meals for those that need it most is a waste. Both doesn't matter much in the grand scheme of things to the budget and deficit, except cutting one is devastating to those that need it the most.
     
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    How can you compare the need of the Donald with the need of low income elderly people?
     
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    Maybe if the First Lady could move into the White House we'd have enough to fund this 3% for the next 500 years or so.
     
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    Yeah but can you really blame her?
     
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  9. Amiga

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    Much apology to our Highness.
     
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    Apology accepted on behalf of his Highness the Donald. :)

    Remember he is fighting for the little people and draining the swamp at this very moment!
     
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    That won't mean 3% starving....it would mean that they'll have to raise a bit more money, that's all. On top of that, is giving money to Meals on Wheels the most efficient way to feed those seniors? Why not a different charity? Why are we causing children to die of leukemia by giving money to Meals on Wheels instead of teh Leukemia and Lymphoma Society? Do you hate sick people that much?

    See how ridiculous this way of thinking gets? Are we now supposed to think that EVERY charity is entitled to federal funding? Meals on Wheels will continue to do their job even without the government spending your money on it. If you worry about them, just write a check.
     
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    What matters is that cutting these stupid things like this does nothing to balance the budget and hurts the programs and people that are cut. The idea that they can just always raise more isn't necessarily true. It's not like they aren't trying to raise donations already. It would be different if it actually made a difference towards balancing our budget but it doesn't.

    This isn't really even a sacrifice because when something is sacrificed something else is gained. In this case nothing is gained. It only hurts people.
     
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    Again, loosing 3% funding doesn't mean they can just raise more to makes up for it. You're suggesting that the organization will take loosing funding as a kick in the ass to raise more. That's silly they just loose funding and if anything it hampers their ability to raise as much as they could with the funding.

    Then your going to suggest the charity isn't efficient enough at what it's doing? Great.
     
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    Having 3% of their budget cut by the evil Trump will probably lead to donations that will lead to a 10% increase in their budget. They'll be fine. More importantly, they aren't entitled to that funding so I can't see a reason to whine about it.

    Now if we want to complain about the wasteful spending that is still in Trump's budget, I'm all for it because he's a free spender just like the rest....I just can't complain about the few programs that should be cut that are cut. Suggesting that we cut off funding doesn't mean that the programs aren't worthwhile or good, it just means that we shouldn't be borrowing from foreign countries to fund them.
     
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    You guys are silly. Meals on wheels wont need the extra 3% after a percentage of their beneficiaries die when their access to other services are cut.

    FYI, meals on wheels doesn't just deliver to seniors.
     
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    LOL yes, let's make the "if you cut program X it will lead to dead bodies in the street" argument. It's always brilliant and literally always happens. Every time. Always. The US is just littered with dead bodies of those who starve to death due to a random charity not getting a tiny fraction of their funding coming from the government.
     
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    I said when their access to OTHER services are cut, not this meals program.

    Anyway, no, the bodies don't end up in the street. How odd that you think someone who dies because they didn't have access to say, proper medical treatment, would just be in the street instead of buried in the ground or cremated. Weird.
     
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    Thanks for reminding us that it is never possible to shame a conservative about their proposals for f'ing poor folks.
    Enjoy your $39tax cut if you manage to hit the next bracket. The billionaires need their extra few hundred grand.
     
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    Like, was the public clamoring to get rid of MOW?

    "it doesn't produce"? Was anyone expecting that program to turn a profit?

    What am I missing here?
     
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    I don't think lumping all "conservatives" as heartless SOBs is fair. Hell, I don't even think all people who voted for Trump are that way.

    BG is just a special kind of character. No empathy for anyone and thinks he is smarter then everyone else around him.
     

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