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[#bemorelikeeurope] EU Allows Employers To Ban Non-Sensical Religious Garb

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Cohete Rojo, Mar 14, 2017.

  1. Cohete Rojo

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    This makes sense, if you believe in western values. I don't want religious injection in the workplace anymore than I do in the classroom (i.e. evolution). I think you have to give credit where credit is due.

    And it should be pointed out that these rulings apply to more than just burkas and hijabs.

     
  2. hlcc

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    Since it's not targeting any particular religion & symbol, I don't have a problem with this. In addition, I personally think burkas & hijabs should be banned for security concerns. Seems like it'll be pretty easy for criminals to hide behind a burka or hijab to avoid identification.
     
  3. DonnyMost

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    Companies should be able to set their own dress codes.
     
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  4. wouldabeen23

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    So this would also impact orthodox Jews and Sikhs, possibly Christians wearing crosses. Why do we want to be more like this? Are Hijab's and Tichel's so offensive and evil?
     
  5. wouldabeen23

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    You want to ban the wearing of a scarf on your head? Burka's are ridiculous , no argument here, and I agree they are a security risk for a private company or government office.
     
  6. Amiga

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    For security reasons, I want no clothes.
     
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  7. wouldabeen23

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    This guy gets it
     
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    I've always felt a workplace dress code is perfectly acceptable. If your religion won't allow you to meet that dress code, then find new work.
     
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  9. hlcc

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    I don't have a problem with wearing a scarf on your head. I do have a problem with the more ridiculous variants of the hijab, eg burkas, niqaab in which only the eye are visible.
     
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  10. sirbaihu

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    Wow. Ban the wearing of crosses and crucifixes around here, yarmulkas . . . people would be pretty upset. A victory for atheism in the workplace!
     
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  11. dobro1229

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    Does #BeMoreLikeEurope also apply to the overwhelming amount of European countries in the EU like Germany, Sweden, and France that take in many more Syrian Refugees than the US does?

    The US capitalist playbook would tell you to allow companies first to make the judgment call on dress code. Because if a company does something that is a dick move, nobody will want to work for them right? That's the capitalist Philosophy. Then you go to the State Level after that where "if a State has unfriendly workforce policies, people will live & work elsewhere" etc.

    However The US is different where freedom of religion is a constitutional right. No company will want to potentially entangle themselves in litigation over a Hijab or Yakima. So these things just have a way of working themselves out in the US because its not worth the time and effort to make it a big issue at the corporate level which doesn't make it a huge deal at the State level, and then at the Fed level.

    So no I don't think we need to #BeMoreLikeEurope on this and many other issues. Let each case be handled as they come, and let workers sue their companies if they feel like their rights have been violated.
     
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  12. Invisible Fan

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    That would definitely up the female:male ratio.
     
  13. Yung-T

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    People already mentioned security concerns.
    But what bugs me:
    It's oppressive and degrades women, I'm honestly disgusted that many Muslim women are on a level of brainwashing where they actually fight for the right to wear this sh**.
     
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    Right, i understand that with the Nijab/Burka and concede; but head scarves? Observant married Jewish women wear them as well(Tichel being the Jewish version).
     
  15. sirbaihu

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    In America, men can walk around with no shirts on and women can't. What do you think about that?
     
  16. CometsWin

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    I'm all for equality. Women, you have my full support to walk around with no shirts on.
     
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    This threads has been mooted , anyhow ,it was snowing like crazy today, saw a Jewish couple with amazing headgear (shtreimel) covered by custom made plastic covers, shall they be unemployed!

    I feel more bad for Rockets power dancers, it sucks to have a day of work wearing underwear like attire,flashing smiles while having to use tampon , one little drop of blood and it may cause delay of game and ruin the fans experience
     
  18. Yung-T

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    I'm not a fan of any religious symbols that oppress any gender, so yes, I'd have a problem with that as well.

    Again, without the brainwashing I don't see how any selfrespecting person would proudly wear something which oppresses their gender and I hate how religion justifies things that otherwise would have absolutely no place in modern society.
     
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  19. Yung-T

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    There's a distinct difference between obliged religious attire and running around with bare t***, although I'd welcome all females to do it. :oops:

    But again, these religions actively put women down and severely cut their rights and freedom, I don't see how you can compare it to running around naked.

    PS: Don't know the actual law, but assume it's about the exposure to distinct sexual organs. would explain why it makes running around without a shirt okay (yes, both have nipples, but the female breasts are more...in your face), but exposing the penis/balls would still be forbidden. So no, I don't see it as discrimination and fully understand the logic behind it.
     
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  20. Rocket River

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    So Nuns cannot wear there head gear?

    If you can discriminate against someone wearing a burka. . .
    then why not someone wearing a shirt with Newton on it? Bill Nye?
    Why not be able to discriminate against *ANY* clothing? why just religious clothing?

    Now that I can discriminate against any clothing or apparel
    as a employer that gives me alot of power to discriminate

    any one with union apparel .. . . wearing "ethnic" clothing .. . . anything

    Rocket River
     

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