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Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Castor27, Jan 16, 2017.

  1. CallMeTheDream

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    Apparently the Browns love him and he could go #1 overall. If you trade up to #1 you're really not handicapping the team as bad as it looks. If he pans out this move is an automatic steal being we'd be set for the next 10 years. And since Romos chances of re injury are almost guaranteed, we'd be perfectly setting up for the future. Therefore this move makes sense with or without Romo. You can still sign a free agent lineman or get one in the second round. Plus we get 3 extra picks for losing Bouye, Simon, and Demps.
    1.) Trubisky
    2.) Tackle
    4.) CB
    5.) RB
    6.) LB
    7.) OL depth
    Comp.) S(Jackson moving to starting S)
    Comp.) WR
    Comp.) TE
     
  2. gucci888

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    Take a look at what the Rams and Eagles traded to move up last season from #15 and #8 respectively. Also take a look at the Washington/RGIII deal.

    Now what do you think it would take to move up from #25?
     
  3. panamamyers

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    To move from our pick would take this year's and the next two years' #1 plus will fuller plus two second round picks.
     
  4. raining threes

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    So everything is on BOB even if Smitty refuses to add talent like the rest of the division is doing.
     
  5. raining threes

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    I'm not asking for crazy spending.

    I'm asking for Smitty to do anything, while the rest of the division is improving.

    This shows a lack of commitment to winning at worst and a lack of accountability at least.
     
  6. Nimo

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    The Texans biggest rival in the division has made one notable free agent signing - Logan Ryan. How are they improving again?

    I'm convinced that you have no idea what it takes to win. It's not even the end of free agency. We are over a month from the draft and you're already complaining. Showing commitment to winning is making cap room to get a QB that might just take the team over the top. And at the same time getting rid of the QB that was holding the team back last season.
     
  7. justtxyank

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    I know it's fun to joke about how no matter what Jax or Ten do they won't be contenders, but the reality is that we finished 9-7 last season by the skin of our teeth to win the division, and most advanced stats said we were worse than our record indicated. Tennessee actually performed better than us in advanced metrics.

    There is a real potential for regression next year for the Texans. Now, getting actual competent QB play would change that, so I get why that is the focus. I just reject the idea that we can do nothing, roll out a scrub QB and bore ourselves to death all year again and end up 9-7 with a fun playoff run again.
     
  8. Nimo

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    My comment was responding to him saying the rest of the division is improving; not saying the Texans should do nothing. The Titans desperately need wide receivers and help on defense yet they are waiting till the draft. The Texans have to wait too. They have to figure out what they are going to do with the QB position. It is unfortunate they are in this place but they can't be in denial about it. This team is going to look different in a couple months.
     
  9. raining threes

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    They also signed Cyprien, regardless of what you think, Robinson's opinion who I value more than yours or Smitty's for that matter has strengthened the weakest part of the Tacks team. (Secondary) and they've got draft picks to continue improving their team.

    Meanwhile Smitty is sitting back taking credit for being able to clean up a mess he created at the expense of a 2nd rd pick. I hope they get Romo but if you think getting Romo is all this team needs to add in FA to win a SB then we will have to agree to disagree. Especially after losing half the starting secondary and a solid starter at the SAM.

    Bouye going to the Jags is just another cherry on top. Smitty fiddles while Rome burns again. It's like he's trying to get BOB fired.
     
  10. Hey Now!

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    Denver entered free agency with considerably more cap space (~$40MM) and I believe, even after their spending spree, still have at least as much, if not more, than the Texans (~$25MM).
     
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  12. ipaman

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    Every expert agrees that this is a really weak QB class so I think QBs will slide.
     
  13. Hey Now!

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    If your concern is that the division has gotten better, fine - let's discuss that. But that has NOTHING to do with winning a Super Bowl and we can't confuse the two.

    Remember: the Texans are going to be adding the best player in football to their defense, which, last year, was very good. They'll also be adding a veteran cornerback as well as what's essentially an additional high second round pick with terrific upside along the offensive line. If their only other significant addition is a certified QB upgrade, as well as expected improvements from some of last year's rookies (which, if they can get a better QB, will definitely help Fuller and Miller), they'll be OK, in terms of competing for a division title. They can still add talent and depth via lower-tier free agents (which is not insignificant) while adding more top-level talent via the draft.

    If your expectation is win the Super Bowl or bust... prepare to be disappointed. That's an incredibly high bar that most teams not nicknamed the Patriots should set as a standard.
     
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  14. justtxyank

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    We have $31 million in space right now on paper with another $10 million that can be freed up in a moment's notice by doing things that will definitely get done at some point this offseason.

    They aren't holding back in free agency because they don't have the space to do anything while the wait on Romo, they are making a choice. That choice may ultimately be the right one by the way, not bashing them, but they aren't limited by cap space.
     
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  15. raining threes

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    Is the division improving?

    What has Smitty done except clear cap space? There's plenty of cap space for Romo and to make moves in FA. He's sitting on his cap space while all of the top tier and alot of the mid tier FA's are moving on to our main competitors. Smitty will be left with the bottom of the barrel FA's.

    I hope Smitty gets lucky again, because he needs too.
     
  16. houstonstime

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    You do realize that Kevin Johnson getting hurt was the only reason Bouye started right? Granted he did an amazing job of taking advantage of an opportunity, but if you look at where we were starting last year, we still have all our starters minus Demps. And this draft class is INCREDIBLY deep in DBs.
     
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  17. Hey Now!

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    Right; I was only arguing that Denver is not an apple-to-apple comparison. They entered free agency with far more money and, even after a spending spree, has roughly the same amount as the Texans, who had to pull off an unprecedented trade to free up the space.

    It's just funny how so many fans are SCREAMING that the Texans MUST make a splash in free agency, as if last offseason never happened. I wonder if all the foot-stomping mad fans even remember Brock Osweiler, Jeff Allen and Tony Bergstorm?
     
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  18. justtxyank

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    Agree with most of this post:

    1) Can't really be sure what adding Watt back to the defense means right now. Is he really healthy? Can he stay healthy? Does the scheme have to change again to cover his free lancing style? What does all of that mean?

    2) Who is the veteran cornerback they are adding? Is Kevin Johnson a veteran now?

    3) Not sure that Romo helps Fuller. His biggest issue was that he couldn't catch passes. Believe it not, Osweiler hit him in stride on deep passes a fair bit. In general I agree though that a competent QB will improve our WRs.

    4) Totally agree that lower tier free agents can help this team. Webb from Baltimore as an example. I'm actually fully in favor of this strategy. Only sign guys who were cut, preserve your 3 comp picks and hopefully you add some solid depth that way and hit some doubles in the draft.

    5) HATE the super bowl or bust mentality. Not sure how people with that mentality can enjoy sports at all.
     
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  19. ipaman

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    Division has improved but so have the Texans just by removing Brock.
     
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  20. houstonstime

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    He's sitting because he can draft our only other needs OT, DB, LB, a LOT easier than getting a good QB (which I still think we get in the draft). He is not going to risk getting any of those positions and having it cost him a chance at a legit QB. he would rather draft those than rely on a rookie QB.
     

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