Early Free Agency Thought: Gordon Hayward would make this team unreal

no, minus those players the rockets are better, because that's the rockets 7th man vs. the jazzs' number one guy. The jazz would never be better in this type of 1 to 1 subtraction scenario, because the rockets always have that one guy to tip the scales.

BUT

the sum of the jazz' parts may end up being better this year, and in the future. Regardless of what I think, i'll bet he thinks that.

 

He won't be coming here. Would the Rockets be able to pay him the max?

Also, any player that comes to Houston has to be willing to take a back seat to Harden. I don't see Hayward wanting to be the number two player on a team.

 

What are you talking about? The only players shipped out had been Beasley and Corey Brewer, if thats ur definition of guys "not fitting in" well yeah, the system doesn't want to fit in scrubs. The gap between Houston and Jazz is the 3rd biggest gap between seeds in the WC, most other seeds are 2-3 games apart.

If Jazz is much more suited for playoff bball how come Houston has a better record against playoff teams like what the other poster said? So not only do rox have a bigger gap between the Jazz than other seeds, they have won more games and have won more games against playoff teams. How are they better in the playoffs again? None of your points and complaints are based on facts lol ur just complaining for the sake of complaining.

 

Actually taking their most skilled player would be ideal....hahaha

 

the jazz whipping the rockets ass. ya that's not factual at all....

So other seeds are more closely packed in the standings? ok? that doesn't change the fact that the gap between the rox and jazz isn't that big.

i don't see how you can say it's not factual that morey's system requires a more specialized skill set than others, morey has been on record saying as much.

you can't use a regular season record against playoff teams to justify how a team will perform in the playoffs against those same teams. That has been proven time and time again. That's a fact. It's a different game, a slower paced game, a more defensive game. One the jazz are better at than the rockets.

I'm not complaining bro. i'm preparing for the inevitable.

 

Lol why do people argue with @T for 3 he's a Lin fan leftover who has been trolling ever since. He hasn't had a bright educated view point in his entire time here. He is either hating on something or he's silent

Moreover, Hayward would be a great fit in our philosophy and that includes his midrange. He isn't the best fit in the league but he's one of the better fits out there. His ability to run the offense at times and penetrate from the forward position is great.

 

The Invisible Ink Defensive lineup of the century.

 

No idea why Boston thinks they can get him

 

Plus, the future of Boston is bright. They can take the picks they have and trade them for veterans, or Boston can play it safe and hope to do well in the draft. Even without the picks, Boston seems to be a lock, to be perennial playoff contenders. A Thomas / Hayward / Horford trio is scary; they also have depth in Bradley / Smart / Olynyk.

But perhaps the most important thing is that Hayward wouldn't have to go through the West. Even though there's slightly more parity in the East now, with Boston, Toronto and Washington all doing really well, you'd still have to go through Harden, Westbrook, GSW, SA, Portland (though inconsistent).

I can't see anyone else being a threat to Boston in the EC if Hayward signs, besides Cleveland.

 

Get your alternative facts out of here!

Besides, most of ClutchFans realizes that Hayward is the kind of sturdy player we need.

 

I'll take Gordon Hayward or Paul George plz! morey make it happen!!

 

Lin fan? Way off. My view points are different than the majority opinion on this board and you don't like it. I don't troll at all.

You on the other hand would jump off a bridge if morey told you to.

Hayward's midrange game would fit here?? have you been watching the rockets at all this year?

 

Actually I wouldn't jump off the cliff if he said to. But, if he provided me with data that explained the height of the jump, plus gravity equating in his argument and explained how nothing bad would happen if I tucked my legs straight because of the depth of water would cover the trajectory. Than, I'd be willing to try it.

And that has nothing to do with blind faith but rather taking a risk on provable data for a great result.

You, like many others, think that the mid-range is banned when it isn't. We don't have the personnel for it.

BTW Hayward is very good at PnR ballhandling the biggest part of our philosophy. He is very good at driving to the rim, the 2nd biggest part of our philosophy. And he is a knockdown shooter from 3. The 3rd biggest importance to our offense.

If Hayward was here he would run PnR and drive to the hoop. Or spot up at the 3 when James is running PnR.

His mid-range is built on his drives being stopped so he pulls up from long 2.

 

Oh? we just don't have the personnel for mid range shooting? Well, why do you think that is? coincidence? or could it be years of careful planning, specifically designed to remove the shot from the rockets system?

C'mon man that part of it isn't even up for debate.

Hayward isn't coming here to be a spot up, volume 3 pt shooter, and you said it yourself, his drives get stopped, his game is not predicated on getting all the way to the rim, off the dribble.

We can argue Hayward's fit all you want. but why are you trying to pick a fight with me? calling me a troll? whatever, man.

If you want to have a discussion, fine. If you wan't to call me names and all that, i'm not down with that.

 

OK.

22.4% of his offensive possessions are for up 3s. Converting at 37.4%

He's a good spot up shooter. But let's take the mid-range myth.

He has shot 254 shots with in 5ft.

He has shot 352 from 3pt range and further.

He has shot 217 from every spot in between.

3s first. Rim second. Mid-range last.

Sounds a lot like our Philosophy

 

you are going to have to elaborate buddy?

 

Accident response before I finished.

Check now.

 

you are misrepresenting those stats in my opinion.

Here is something like what you were looking at to compile that list:



A few very important distinctions here:

in the paint (Non-RA) shots are not layups, and they do not all qualify as the "rim" category of you list. Some may be closer to the rim, also some may be closer to mid range shots.

If you take that into account on your list, the number of shots he takes that are not rocket friendly goes up SIGNIFICANTLY.

Let's go further.


You have the number of three point shot taken as 352. This is incorrect. Probably because you lumped in all of the shots taken from 20-24 ft as three point shots (the three point line is 23 ft.) You can't do that, a lot of those shots were long twos.

Anyway, The total number of threes taken is 301. (as clearly seen in the first graphic)

From the first graphic:

If you take even half of the shots taken in the paint (Non- Restricted Area Paint Shots) and assume they are not layups, or (not rocket friendly), then take the other half and count them as layups, the list becomes:

1. Mid range/(Paint Non-RA) (322)
2. 3pt(301)
3. Rim/layup (299)